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Boston Cops Seek Invites to Search Homes
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http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/news/1-11172007-1442731.html

BOSTON - Boston police will ask parents in high-crime areas to let detectives search their children's bedrooms for guns without warrants in a new anti-crime program.

Police believe parents are so worried their teenagers will be caught up in gun violence that they'll be willing to allow police into their homes. If the parents say no, the police will leave.

"They don't know what to do when faced with the problem of dealing with a teenage boy in possession of a firearm," police Commissioner Edward Davis said of parents. We're giving them an option in that case."

Davis announced the program Friday in a meeting with community leaders.

During the next two weeks, teams of three plainclothes officers assigned to schools will go to homes where they believe teens have guns and ask their parents or legal guardians for permission to search.

The program, called Safe Homes, has raised questions about civil liberties.

Thomas Nolan, a former Boston police lieutenant who teaches criminology at Boston University, called it "an end run around the Constitution."

"The police have restrictions on their authority and ability to conduct searches," he said. "The Constitution was written with a very specific intent, and that was to keep the law out of private homes unless there is a written document signed by a judge and based on probable cause. Here, you don't have that."
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Some critics said people may be too intimidated to say no to police.

"People might not understand the implications of weapons being tested or any contraband being found," said Amy Reichbach, a racial justice advocate at the American Civil Liberties Union.

The program is modeled after one that began in 1994 in St. Louis and ended in 1999, partly because funding ran out. Boston police said that in the first year of the St. Louis program, police were allowed into 98 percent of homes contacted and that guns were seized in half of them.

Davis said officers won't conduct such searches in the homes of teenagers suspected in shootings or homicides whom investigators are trying to prosecute. If officers find drugs during a warrantless search, it will be up to them whether to make an arrest. Modest amounts of drugs like marijuana will simply be confiscated, officials said.

The Rev. Jeffrey Brown, co-founder of the anti-crime Boston TenPoint Coalition, backed the initiative.

"What I like about this program is it really is a tool to empower the parent," he said. "It's a way in which they can get a hold of the household and say, 'I don't want that in my house.'"


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Re: Boston Cops Seek Invites to Search Homes [Re: Bridgeburner]
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Meh, I don't think it's such a bad thing.

If the parents want to say no, they can say no. Big deal.

If the measure was intended for drugs instead of firearms, then I would have a big problem with it, mostly because It'd be a waste of money.

But the firearms, that's actually something that can produce a good result.


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Re: Boston Cops Seek Invites to Search Homes [Re: boxcarguy07]
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boxcarguy07 said:
Meh, I don't think it's such a bad thing.

If the parents want to say no, they can say no. Big deal.

If the measure was intended for drugs instead of firearms, then I would have a big problem with it, mostly because It'd be a waste of money.

But the firearms, that's actually something that can produce a good result.


WOW.... just....WOW

Nothing like giving up your personal freedoms for the FALSE illusion of safety. Do you wanna be safe from "gun violence"? Then buy a firearm and learn how to use it, thats the only way you`ll ever be safe, the fact is were all responsible for our own personal safety don't expect the cops to come running to your rescue they have wives children and there own lives so who do you thinks going to come first? 99% of the time they get there just soon enough to clean up the mess. "He who gives up freedom for safety deserves neither." - Benjamin Franklin


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Re: Boston Cops Seek Invites to Search Homes [Re: Bridgeburner]
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what a waste of time/resources...

the kids will just find some abandoned building or empty lot to stash their gun at.

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Re: Boston Cops Seek Invites to Search Homes [Re: Yoschie99]
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Even kids know better than to hide things in their room.

If you're acting weird, that's the first place someone will look and if you're smart, that's the last place they'll find it.

The parents think,

"Oh no, my kid might get into trouble if he has a gun, I better let the police in so that they can take it away and deal with it.

Oh my god! What are they doing? You're taking my kid where?!"


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Re: Boston Cops Seek Invites to Search Homes [Re: kidaihuan]
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Well you have to be pretty dumb to not understand your rights. To me it's like they are taking advantage of stupid parents that don't know any better by doing what they do best, bullshiting.

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Re: Boston Cops Seek Invites to Search Homes [Re: Bridgeburner]
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i hope some cops go into some room with some crazy kids and eat some lead, people r so conditioned to give up their rights these days


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