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i was wondering about protein shakes or creatine. Im 6'3 217 pounds and im just over my charts for my height and weight matching up at the doctors office...so he says i should lose about 10 pounds and ill be perfect...i had been way under, but then i had back surgery and for a year before the surgery i tried other things, but i wasnt allowed to exercise, so i gained 60 pounds. Now im back to playing basketball for my highschool and lifting weights finally. im gaining even more weight, but im getting more muscle. I wanted to take a protein shake diet or something to gain more muscle as im lifting more and more and bulk up because im a post player for my team and i need to be big. i read a few articles and they said a shake in the morning, right after lifting, and after any exercise. Ive heard that taking protein shakes and creatine supplements is just a good way to make expensive piss, but ive also seen firsthand one of my friends boost his bench max 80 pounds in 7 months until he stopped taking them. So, basically i just want to know if it would be a good way to gain some muscle and bulk up while im lifting and working out and running a lot for basketball and conditionings.


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Re: muscle building [Re: dlepi]
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http://abcbodybuilding.com/bulking%20to%20the%20next%20levlel.php

That site is helping me a lot, coming from the opposite side of the spectrum though, I'm 6'0" 130. It's all about the way you lift, pyramid lifting and muscle failure.

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Re: muscle building [Re: Rustifer]
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IMO protein shakes are a waste of money. It's way easy to get enough protein out of food. Sure they are good when you are out of food, but they won't make you super strong and muscle-y.

As for creatine, it can help. But again, don't depend on it.


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Re: muscle building [Re: PyroBurns]
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I understand that by taking protein shakes im not going to get huge, but i know that they can benefit you. I would plan on taking one in the morning, and then one i get done lifting and exercising.


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Edited by dlepi (11/11/07 05:59 PM)

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Edited by Anonymous (02/06/13 08:59 PM)

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Re: muscle building [Re: dlepi]
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Protein shakes are definitely not a waist of money. The trick with protein is you need one gram per body weight to get approximately the right amount of grams your body needs. Not at once though. This should be spread through out your day. Protein shakes should NOT replace food. You could also get the correct amount of protein by eating well balanced meals. To get an even more in depth info on protein and wealth/fitness have a look at these two websites: http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/index.html and http://www.prosource.net/

Also, don't get suckered into the advertisements on those sites or you'll end up spending a fortune. Concentrate on the articles and forums. They are filled with useful information.

-PEACE

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Re: muscle building [Re: TheLightIsOn]
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alright thanks for the information. If i were to get creatine and a protein supplement, what would be the best brand to get. Does anyone have any information on brands or specifics i should look for, or where online to order it from. thanks.


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Re: muscle building [Re: dlepi]
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100% ON Whey makes good protein.

Though a shake in the morning would be a waste. The protein absorbs too quickly, and you have a chance of metabolizing it as energy. Stick with meat! If you really have to have one in the morning, definitely mix it with a good meal.

Shakes PWO are okay, though.

Green Bulge is a fine creatine. Either the pills, or the powder which I think is called Green MAG or something.


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Re: muscle building [Re: dlepi]
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I prefer prosource products since I've tried them and they work well.

Have a look at: http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/topicoftheweek116.htm

-Peace

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Re: muscle building [Re: dlepi]
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instead of buying overpriced flavoured whey search for suppliers of unflavoured pure whey

then you can add vanilla essence and choclate flavour as you go

also look into dextrose and maltodextrin for glucose and it helps with the taste

you want ethyl esther creatine instead of the monohydrate and also glutamine if you want

thats all thats needed aswell as a healthy diet for good steroid free muscle


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Re: muscle building [Re: alphabeatu]
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yeah thats what i was going to do was by unflavored whey. But i read that creatine usually forms clumps and tastes gritty like sand. Is there a way to avoid that?


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Re: muscle building [Re: dlepi]
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My CEE clumps and tastes sour and nasty. But I just dilute it well and stir it up. It ain't that bad.

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Re: muscle building [Re: dlepi]
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If you need to lose weight, you need to eat below your maintenance calories (diet). During this time you can build some muscle but not very much. The reason why you would eat a high protein diet in this case is mostly to preserve the muscle you have. The idea is basically, if your body has enough exogenous protein (from food) it will not break down as much muscle to get energy when you work out.

You really need to know your body fat composition to judge what you should do. If you are overweight but only 15% body fat, you don't need to worry about dieting. If you are 20%+ then I suggest you first lose the fat and worry about building muscle later. It would still be a good idea to take a protein shake after working out to preserve muscle.

I would suggest a diet of 2800 calories per day, including 300g of protein if you work out. Protein can come from shakes or food like chicken and fish. The rest should come mostly from complex carbs and unsaturated fat. This isn't always possible but it should be what you aim for.

Creatine is good if you lift weights. You should take some of it during your work out and the rest afterwards.

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Re: muscle building [Re: Catalysis]
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Good advice here. I am 6'4'' and 170 lbs. That means I am skinny I think. I do not want to lose weight, I want to gain muscle and keep the same amount of fat I have. I used to eat very unhealthy and was still skinny. Now I eat very healthy and am still skinny. I think I need to lift and gain some muscle mass or something. Any stories of a skinny guy becoming toned?

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Re: muscle building [Re: Tangerines]
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Just a couple MILLION


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Re: muscle building [Re: PyroBurns]
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get hemp protein, pretty nutritious.


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Re: muscle building [Re: dlepi]
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dlepi said:
yeah thats what i was going to do was by unflavored whey. But i read that creatine usually forms clumps and tastes gritty like sand. Is there a way to avoid that?


i was having bloat trouble with creatine monohydrate but these are great...no mixing

this brand is one of the cheaper ones and suits me fine

http://www26.netrition.com/axis_labs_cee.html


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Re: muscle building [Re: Tangerines]
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you probably need to eat say about 300g of protien aday,if youre exercising while taking the extra protein you can only put on more muscle

im one of the skinny ones that puts fat around my gut and chest but ive lost it and toned up but i still want some more muscle there and have kind of plateaued,i dont think i can get any more muscle unless i join a gym cause you really need that extra push from others plus its safer than lifting alone

i can notice surface fat on my chest the next day if i even eat a piece of cake
so i try to eat healthy and maybe eat some sweet stuff a couple of times a month

when i can afford it i will probably try some more stak paks and a nox product on top of the reg whey and cee cause they help with circulation in my experience,get more veins popping too

is brownjustin still around?

he was huge the last time i saw him,id like to hear how he's been going after trying roids and stuff

i thought i might add that you do have to cycle creatine on and off and take a liver cleanser like milk thistle if youre on the 4 a day dosage

i usually just take two every second week


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Edited by alphabeatu (11/13/07 12:13 AM)

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Re: muscle building [Re: alphabeatu]
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Hey man, yeah I'm still kicking around. Just started m1t, sustanon and equipoise today... hurt like a bugger to inject 1.75mls in my quad after such a long lay off!

I've taken a different path from the last time I posted here... diet is really where it's at. It'll comprise your physique, muscle bellies, adipose, everything. You can train your ass off but if you're not eating right your muscles will be flat, your adipose will be puffy and it'll blur your definition. You need to eat good first and foremost.

Don't be afraid to ingest protein shakes as well. They're amazingly versatile and cheap. If you consider the fact that a protein shake with macadamia nut, oatmeal and fruit can replace a meal for a couple dollars then you're saving money, looking great and finding easy ways to cut down on meal prep.

The hardest part about bodybuilding is prepping meals, imho. Eating them is a bitch and that's why I'm taking eq. A little juice goes a long way as well. I've been dabbling in the realm of androgenic anabolic steroids and the results have been excellent. I get tons of blood work and with all the protein shakes and gear, I'm in excellent health.

Never let anyone convince you that protein is useless or that too much is a bad thing. The liver is resilient and polypeptides (amino acids) are not bad. They're GOOD. You can't overtrain if you eat enough food, mainly protein, so eat up, train hard, rest up and prep lots of healthy meals.

I'll post later when I'm not so damn intoxicated and tired too.


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Re: muscle building [Re: browndustin]
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heya man good to hear from you

i was keeping track of your posts at bodybuilder.com for awhile but my pc went apeshit

i have pretty much stayed the same just keeping toned but started a 2 on/1 off/1 on regiment that works out to five days aweek

im at a stage now where im lifting with muscles and not heart and sinews and tendons anymore ,the aches and pains vanished and the pinched nerve in my shoulder is gone probably still there but pains my friend and i know now why it was pinched...my form was a bit off but now with persistence i just get that burned tired feeling in which ever mucle group i work out on

dont get me wrong im not huge by any means but a damned improvment from what i was and im happy

i still have 'pinners' tho :lol:

later man


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