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b3jamboree
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Alternative Cyan chips?
#7566047 - 10/27/07 08:27 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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So I got some chips back to Michigan and I'm going to see how they will do out here. One thing though, we don't have Alder trees. What would be a good local alternative to Alder chips? Maple? Oak is pretty dense so I kind of guessed no. What would be my best bet?
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thetonebone72
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Re: Alternative Cyan chips? [Re: b3jamboree]
#7566251 - 10/27/07 10:03 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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hardwood chips would include alder, apple, cherry, aspen, maple, beech, birch, cottonwood, hickory, mesquite, oak or any tree that has leaves it drops in the winter. try shopping for smoke chips used in grilling. they are usually available at lowes, big box grocery stores or stores that specialize in grilling. Fresh cut chips are ideal but kiln dried smoke chips will work. Just don't use softwood chips such as cedar, fir, douglas fir, redwood, sequoia, yew or anything that is an evergreen.
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b3jamboree
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Cool, thanks alot. I will be able to get them fresh. Actually I'll just fell a tree and chip it up myself so a little more of my sweat and love goes into it. I'll probably go with maple I imagine.
Stay tuned next year for the results. I'm not sure if anyone has ever tried a cyan patch in northern michigan. We'll see how they handle a good hard freeze...
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strangladesh
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Re: Alternative Cyan chips? [Re: b3jamboree]
#7566406 - 10/27/07 11:03 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ill have one fruiting pretty soon...
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Re: Alternative Cyan chips? [Re: strangladesh]
#7566412 - 10/27/07 11:06 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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by soon you mean next year?
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Re: Alternative Cyan chips? [Re: budmanman]
#7566492 - 10/27/07 11:31 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I have a cultivated patch in cincinnati at my bro in laws house.
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b3jamboree
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Re: Alternative Cyan chips? [Re: Boomers420]
#7566563 - 10/27/07 11:53 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Cinci eh. Thats pretty encouraging. Although it does it waaaay colder up here.
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Re: Alternative Cyan chips? [Re: b3jamboree]
#7566762 - 10/27/07 01:13 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Willow, elm, fir and spruce are probably the best alternatives to alder. Maple works well also.
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Dr. uarewotueat
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Re: Alternative Cyan chips? [Re: falcon]
#7566788 - 10/27/07 01:25 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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fir and spruce are soft woods are they not? thats not really a good alternative at all...
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falcon


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Most softwoods are not a good alternative, spruce and fir are better than most hardwoods.
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haymaker
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Cyans usually like warmer weather i thought? so surely thats a good sign. Oak is a good, common hardwood, as are elm and beech. All easily identifiable.
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Re: Alternative Cyan chips? [Re: haymaker]
#7566835 - 10/27/07 01:40 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
Most softwoods are not a good alternative, spruce and fir are better than most hardwoods.

why do the majority of cyans grow on hardwood chips then?
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falcon


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http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/5508532#Post5508532, they also do well on Picea pungens.
I don't know why they don't turn up more often on soft wood chips.
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Re: Alternative Cyan chips? [Re: falcon]
#7567683 - 10/27/07 07:06 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I've never found them on fir, and I have worked in the lanscape trade in the NW for a long time ,and mostly all that is used is fir bark where I live. Maybe the wood chipped, but I dunno...
If you go to a pet store, you can usually find bales of aspen shavings.
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Re: Alternative Cyan chips? [Re: nicechrisman]
#7568840 - 10/28/07 05:47 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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i think the reason pine and other soft woods are not the best is cos they have a high resin content 
im planning to make my own patch also and i will stick with hardwood, pine would be OK if it was aged correctly i guess...
that link was useful falcon, thanks
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