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    #7504937 - 10/10/07 11:36 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

EDIT: please look below for pics


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Re: Cubes + ? [Re: FutureBlues]
    #7505031 - 10/10/07 12:09 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Take spore prints of any you are uncertain of, namely the two rusty brown gilled cubes and the panaeolus. Do it soon or you will not be able to get a print.

It helps a LOT to hunt in the day. Sometimes it will be sparse like that, sometimes you'll find the mother load. You're lucky you found any for a first timer. Also, more rain = more fungal growth.


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Re: Cubes + ? [Re: CureCat]
    #7505051 - 10/10/07 12:14 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I've been lurking the boards alot, and have been photographing the fungi at my local college campus (nature preserve) for some time now, so I think I'm a little better off than the usual first-timer. I've been watching the weather for a while, as well. (Being Florida) it's been raining like hell for a while now. I waited for about two days of dryness (because the 3 days of rain probably flooded the fields), then set out.

The rusty-brown ones didn't show any prints, but the 4 with black gills have barely noticeable purple prints. I threw the rusty ones out.

Next time I'll try doing it in daylight, though I do have a fear of getting shot at by angry farmers :frown:


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Re: Cubes + ? [Re: FutureBlues]
    #7505148 - 10/10/07 12:37 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

That is a realistic fear. Be careful.

Pictures are really important for identification. Consider spending $100 and getting a nice digi cam. Or see if you can borrow a friends.


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Re: Cubes + ? [Re: CureCat]
    #7505235 - 10/10/07 12:57 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I have a camera, but it's stranded in a parking lot several miles from here and I'm being very lazy. Next time I'll be sure to have it around.

I'd appreciate if somebody could answer some questions if only to satiate my fear. I really have no idea how cattle farming works. Is there a time of day one should be afraid of wandering around fields during? Are they taken out in the morning and in for the evening (thus making mid-day the best time)?


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Re: Cubes + ? [Re: FutureBlues]
    #7505292 - 10/10/07 01:09 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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3 hours of dicking around in the dark in a cow field and I salvaged maybe 4 cubensi




Finding four is better than finding none. Four sounds like it could be a well rounded dosage, so in that respect you succeeded in your quest to find Cubensis. Some people have to go on many hunts before they find them. Experience helps your efforts. Some fields you will find nothing at all, but a mile down the road in another field you can score pretty good. With experience I have learned how to eyeball a field and just by the appearance of the pasture I will know if shrooms would grow in it. Also after you go though a few seasons of hunting you will get a better idea of what kind of weather you want to key in on. Expect to come home empty handed every once in a while. Coming home empty handed teaches you where not to look or when not to look. And it sounds like you need to spend a little extra time learning how to identify a Cubensis positively. Good luck!


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Re: Cubes + ? [Re: FutureBlues]
    #7505507 - 10/10/07 01:58 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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I have a camera, but it's stranded in a parking lot several miles from here and I'm being very lazy.

I'd appreciate if somebody could answer some questions if only to satiate my fear.



I'm sorry, but we need a photo to make a positive ID. We are not holding out on you, we just can't know for sure without seeing some photos. It sounds like you probably have Ps. cubensis.


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Re: Cubes + ? [Re: CureCat]
    #7506296 - 10/10/07 05:11 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I went out again today, to a completely different field in a different area. I found a whole lot of possible Cyans? Remember, these are all in Northeast FL.

Here are those Cubensis from earlier. Note the blueing.



Species 2-

(very dry)
substrate: growing out of the ground in high grass, next to cow dung
bruising: none apparent

Species 3-


substrate: directly out of cow dung
bruising: purplish


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Re: Cubes + ? [Re: FutureBlues]
    #7506734 - 10/10/07 07:23 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Rather than make a new thread I think I'll just bump for help :smile:


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Re: Cubes + ? [Re: FutureBlues]
    #7506784 - 10/10/07 07:38 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Hey Future, nice finds, I also like to explore and lucky you at least discovered something. I live in an area (Southern coast, South Carolina) where agriculture once thrived in earlier days, and there are many farms/ fields still existent. However coming across 3+ separate fields, with most occupied by a small amount of horses, and also waiting after a 2 day rain period (mid last week) where it stayed humid and misting pretty much almost all throughout that time, I made an early morning trip to go and check most of these and I seriously didn't come across nearly any pinning. This didn't get my hopes down as I will continue to hunt and search for the "motherload" fields, but as GGreatOne234 said
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Finding four is better than finding none



Be glad you came across any :S


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Re: Cubes + ? [Re: PinniesPlox]
    #7506849 - 10/10/07 08:02 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Hey Future, nice finds, I also like to explore and lucky you at least discovered something. I live in an area (Southern coast, South Carolina) where agriculture once thrived in earlier days, and there are many farms/ fields still existent. However coming across 3+ separate fields, with most occupied by a small amount of horses, and also waiting after a 2 day rain period (mid last week) where it stayed humid and misting pretty much almost all throughout that time, I made an early morning trip to go and check most of these and I seriously didn't come across nearly any pinning. This didn't get my hopes down as I will continue to hunt and search for the "motherload" fields, but as GGreatOne234 said
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Finding four is better than finding none




Be glad you came across any :S



Sorry about your luck, I didn't mean to be negative. I was just feeling so down because I collected probably 50 mushrooms in the dark and ended up throwing away 46. This, I guess, should be expected when collecting in the dark. Driving away from the field I did feel very successful and happy.

I am still very anxious to know what that orange-white mushrooms are!

Also, I noticed that the cubensis picture is very dark and the blue bruising may be a little hard to see. I just want to clarify that the blue color is very apparent from what I can see.


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Re: Cubes + ? [Re: FutureBlues]
    #7507016 - 10/10/07 08:47 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

The specimens in your first pic look like they've suffered a bad beating.  They don't look like other Ps. cubensis I've seen posted here.  There does look like there's some blue bruising in the stem at the far right, though.  :shrug:


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Re: Cubes + ? [Re: scout24]
    #7507372 - 10/10/07 10:31 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I wouldn't even keep those suspected cubes. You can find more, and in better condition than that. Those might be bad, as in not cubes, or bad, as in rotten.


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Re: Cubes + ? [Re: PinheadX]
    #7507417 - 10/10/07 10:52 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

They're cubensi as far as I can tell; right color, dark gills, purple spore print, bruising blue (not evident from photos). And they're not rotten, just very, very dirty. Actually, it's been that way with pretty much every mushroom I find.

Should I assume the peach-colored ones are inactive?


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Re: Cubes + ? [Re: FutureBlues]
    #7507440 - 10/10/07 10:59 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

yeah. probably toxic as well.

To avoid the dirty shrooms problem, try cutting them at the base with a knife when harvesting them. That way, you don't bring poo into the bag with the mushrooms. I had to learn that after having mulch all inside the gills of my cubes. It's easier to keep them clean, and they're much more enjoyable without having to clean them extensively before eating or drying them. You still should make sure they're clean and wipe them with a damp paper towel if necessary.


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