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moon_glue
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Golden Rules for buying Green
#7470743 - 09/30/07 02:56 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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This is for all you newbie stoners out there who keep posting the "I got skimped" threads. Back in '03 an '04 i had a great dealer but he turned into a junkie. Miss that dude. I'l crack a beer to him as i write this.
Rule No.1 Do not pay in advance. Not for a day or even 5 minutes. Do not pay someone before they "run inside to get the bag." Not even to be polite, thats not professional. Do not pull money out of your pocket before you have what you want in your hand, have smelled, and examined for weight and quality.
Rule No.2 You are being profiled The first few times with a new dealer is important for you to see if he's any good. He's also seing what kind of customer you are. Never take a skimped bag, or all ur bags will be off. Never except a bag with seeds and stems, or you will be the one he sells his scraps to. Never ask for a price reduction/haggle unless you are prepared to turn him away. Or this dealer will see you will always pay full price after you are done complaining.
Rule No.3 The buyer brings the scale If you're meeting some where, the dealer wieghed it before he got to you. He's not your mom. He doesn't feel like carrying around extra paraphenalia to suit your needs. SOO do yourself a favor and invest 20 bucks in a cheap pocket scale. Go cheap if you plan on taking it out with you on buys, you may need to ditch it in the future.
Rule No.4 Find a regular dealer, and buy on a regular basis. Do you want to know how to piss a dealer off? Hit him up 5 or 10 times a week for piddly little sacks. Even better yet, show up with a car load of your wigger friends. If you buy your stuff on a regular schedule at a regular amount, this dealer has your shit set aside for you. He likes you. You're convenient, profitable, and easy to work with. He may even start saying things like "i threw in a couple grams extra" or "hey man, try some of this shit, i'l throw in a sample" ect. He wants ur buisness. Most importantly a dealer with a regular inventory is doing buisness right.
Rule No.5 Do not meet with people in parking lots You wan't a guy you can meet at their house, or they can swing by your house. These meetings should last 30 minutes or so. The guy you meet in the parking lot or some place for 5 minutes is an idiot. stay away from him.
It's hard to get a scale to wiegh accurate in a car, theres not many level surfaces. There is a sense of pressure, you may make mistakes. Most importantly, you're gonna get busted doing this!
Rule No.6 Always bring a good dealer buisness. Don't introduce him to every stoner. Introduce him to one or two of your friends who are smart customers. Ask the guy first, they tend to be paranoid. Have him swing by your place, ur friend and the dealer can feel each other out. Maybe even exchange numbers.
**Also, once in a while offer your dealer a beer or plate of food or something when he swings by on his bi weekly visit. Something as simple as "Hey man you gotta try a pack of these new papers" A small gesture of familiartiy will relax his parnoid nature.
So what's the bottom line of all this? It's a filter process. Don't waste time and money on lousy dealers. Go without weed until you find a good connect. If you can't go without weed, your gonna being raped by any dealer who know's his trade.
Feel free to add some rules.
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Re: Golden Rules for buying Green [Re: moon_glue]
#7470796 - 09/30/07 03:08 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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very nice
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Re: Golden Rules for buying Green [Re: moon_glue]
#7470800 - 09/30/07 03:09 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Pretty good info for a newbie, though I diagree on some points. All my dealers never use scales. An 1/8th is an 1/8th is an 1/8th. The way to piss a dealer off it telling them that they cheated you, be cautious about it. Some dealers will not use scales even if you ask them to, so know what you're getting and have a good eye to measure things out. Although I agree about not meeting in parking lots if your dealer won't meet you anywhere else or it is convenient, then keep the bags low and don't meet too regularly.
Another rule also, never tell a dealer how much you are willing to spend. Get their lowest price, and never tell them how much you're packing. Once you know the cost, then don't bring any more than that in your wallet.
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moon_glue
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Re: Golden Rules for buying Green [Re: confusion]
#7470893 - 09/30/07 03:29 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Some dealers will not use scales even if you ask them to,
refer to rule 3
aside from that, i agree with ya.
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Re: Golden Rules for buying Green [Re: moon_glue]
#7470903 - 09/30/07 03:31 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Never get high off your own supply?
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moon_glue
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Re: Golden Rules for buying Green [Re: Jadian]
#7470913 - 09/30/07 03:35 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Jadian said: Never get high off your own supply?
This is about BUYING not selling.
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Re: Golden Rules for buying Green [Re: moon_glue]
#7470925 - 09/30/07 03:40 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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make sure the dealer is credible background check him talk to his costumers make sure his weed is good and make sure he is reliable
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Re: Golden Rules for buying Green [Re: meatcakeman]
#7470976 - 09/30/07 03:56 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Rules for mushroom growing should go something like this
Rule 1- Dont talk about growing mush
Rule 2- Dont talk about growing mush
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Re: Golden Rules for buying Green [Re: moon_glue]
#7471017 - 09/30/07 04:08 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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moon_glue said:
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Jadian said: Never get high off your own supply?
This is about BUYING not selling.
Oh right my bad, the gangsta in me got confused.
Well then my rule is get stoned with your dealer. You'll be 100% more likely to smoke some of his best personal shit because he'll probably throw down some if you roll a joint or something.
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Re: Golden Rules for buying Green [Re: moon_glue]
#7473001 - 10/01/07 06:45 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think you got most of it right. It's wrong though that you shouldn't meet him somewhere besides a house. Dealers don't want to stick around for 10 minutes let alone 30. They need to be somewhere, they got a bunch of people leaving voice messages on their phones, and they have to drive all over.
But the most important thing you did mention. That is, don't buy skimpy sacks of cannabis. If you are the type of person that I used to be, buying dime bags once or twice a week, you're going to get burned, and your dealer is probably not that professional.
Buy your weed in larger amounts, quarters, zips. Save your money, you will find that that quarter you had patience for weighs alot more than 4 of those tiny little bags you would buy somewhere else.
Another plus about this is selection. With better dealers, you get more opportunity to get some more exotic strains that you will have to pay a bit more for, but you wouldn't have the opportunity otherwise.
Never ever ever give the dealer money before you have the weed in your hand! Ever!
If your dealer ever rips you off, like more than a gram, or you find he's dishonest, unless you have a personal relationship with them, don't even bother haggling, find a new dealer. Even if he hooks you up fatter, he will resent you.Just make sure that whenever you call someone up for weed when you find a new connection, always ask on the phone " does it weigh out?". Just ask, and then you'll have a better chance from then on. But if a dealer gets caught giving you sack that doesn't weigh out, it won't be good from then on.
Always offer to smoke your dealer out. Your dealer will probably appreciate it alot, and you'll have the opportunity to make more connects, plus he will probably be much more likely to stick in an extra nug or match a bowl/joint whatever.
If your dealer doesn't answer your messages, don't give up be patient. But if he doesn't answer at all, and you have to nag him, or he gets an attitude with you, get a new dealer.
Remember that selling cannabis is a black market trade, and it's not regulated. Some dealers use intimidation so that they can deal what they want and get the upper hand. Don't let them push you around. If someone treats you that way, get a new dealer.
Don't support street junkies and people that look like they are a "gangsta". You're only making things harder on yourself and others. These people are a dime a dozen.
Don't get too personal. Remember, this is business, and a dealer will feel awkward if you try to buddy buddy too much. He can't give everyone the same greater than normal hook up. Unfortunately, everyone wants this.
Meeting with a dealer in a parking lot at safeway is not even an issue, as long as you don't make the interaction in the parking lot. Go for a ride, smoke him out check out the bag hand him the money and wave goodbye.
can't think of a whole lot else right now.
Edited by jonathan_206 (10/01/07 06:52 AM)
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I buy my large quantities at a gas station, I pop my hood and look around under my hood until he shows up, we act like we're fucking with my car and make the exchange.
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Re: Golden Rules for buying Green [Re: Rustifer]
#7473165 - 10/01/07 08:52 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Dealers don't want to stick around for 10 minutes let alone 30. They need to be somewhere, they got a bunch of people leaving voice messages on their phones, and they have to drive all over.
that's a hot dealer. stay away from him. especially if you have a project in your closet. Quick in and out traffic is baddddd.
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Don't support street junkies and people that look like they are a "gangsta". You're only making things harder on yourself and others. These people are a dime a dozen.
yeah, they have no clue how to run a buisness. they know how to talk and dress. thats it.
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Don't get too personal. Remember, this is business, and a dealer will feel awkward if you try to buddy buddy too much. He can't give everyone the same greater than normal hook up. Unfortunately, everyone wants this.
i try to show good faith not buddy buddy. always take the time to shoot the shit while you weigh it out. If he's in a rush don't be a pest.
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Re: Golden Rules for buying Green [Re: moon_glue]
#7473203 - 10/01/07 09:18 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Those are some funny rules.
It must suck to deal with people who will try to short you if you dont weigh out every bag in front of them.
I would get angry if every kid I sold a bag weighed it out in my fucking living room.
I dont need them acting like I have to rip them off to make a $$.
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Lots of dealers do short change customers. It's a matter of trust. I don't mind giving my money, as long as I know I'm getting what I paid for.
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I think one of the biggest rules is become friends with your dealer, don't become his customer. That's the golden rule, the most important rule too. Once you become friends with your dealer, hang out on a regular basis, etc. then you'll end up getting deals and such, like extra couple of .grams
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Re: Golden Rules for buying Green [Re: moon_glue]
#7473358 - 10/01/07 10:24 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I only buy off people I've been friends w/ first or from clinics. Makes it easier
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Re: Golden Rules for buying Green [Re: Stizzle]
#7473379 - 10/01/07 10:29 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Stizzle said: I only buy off people I've been friends w/ first or from clinics. Makes it easier
Exactly. And safer, you know the person and have built up trust with them.
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Re: Golden Rules for buying Green [Re: moon_glue]
#7473400 - 10/01/07 10:37 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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HAHAHAHAHA
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Re: Golden Rules for buying Green [Re: moon_glue]
#7473494 - 10/01/07 11:11 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Do you want to know how to piss a dealer off? Hit him up 5 or 10 times a week for piddly little sacks. Even better yet, show up with a car load of your wigger friends.
OMG did this piss me off when I was selling.
I had this one customer who would literally come by my house 2 or 3 times in a single day just to get a gram every time. This guy didn't seem to realize that he was adding unnecessary traffic to my house, not to mention making me rich by paying the retail gram price every time.
not only that, sometimes he would show up at my door with 2 or 3 random ass people I didn't know. After not letting these people in several times, he eventually got the hint and started leaving them in the car. Which isn't much better, because now I have a car full of stoner-looking kids sitting right outside my place, obviously waiting for drugs.
finally one day, I told him he needed to start planning ahead and just come buy a quarter once a week. I wasn't very gentle in telling him this.
then, he leaves, and proceeds to call me on my cell. He thought he was calling someone else (a mutual friend), but apparently this guy's name was right next to mine in his phone and he actually called me. As soon as I answer, he goes into this tale of how I'm such a prick and that I yelled at him, etc etc...
I let him continue for about 5 minutes before I started cracking up and told him who I was... I didn't say he couldn't come back but he didn't call me for like 3 months after that, probably out of shame...
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Re: Golden Rules for buying Green [Re: Nemo_Hoes]
#7473721 - 10/01/07 12:05 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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The Motherfuckin G said: HAHAHAHAHA
of course i get laugh at by a "mother fucking G" throwing up gang signs over a couple dime bags on a table.
these are the people i am warning yo do not buy from.
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