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hilfloskind
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Mycobags - To case or not to case...
#7399927 - 09/12/07 08:51 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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So, I recently got a nice syringe of B+ strain and I have 3x 1 pound mycobags en route and due to arrive any day. I'm making a nice incubator using the double tupperware container/submersed aquarium heater (set to 78F to allow for internal bag temps around 86F) method for my incubation process.
What I'm debating is whether I should simply keep it basic and run through the entire life cycle inside the bags or should I case once fully colonized. I was thinking of maybe even doing a bit of both...maybe keeping 1 or 2 bags intact and simply harvesting right out of them, while casing the balance in a modest aluminum tray using the shroomwizard.com casing process (seems to be nice and simple with good results). This is my first attempt at growing and I've been reading/researching all aspects of cultivation for well over a month in preparation.
Do the fine folks here think the risk/reward factor is positive enough to justify transplating some or all of the bags into a cased FC or are the yields typically abundant enough simply keeping them in the bags and harvesting directly?
Thanks in advance for any replies/comments.
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Re: Mycobags - To case or not to case... [Re: hilfloskind]
#7400317 - 09/12/07 11:15 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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CASE! If you dont you will need 90-100% Rh which means more $$$$
If you case, the casing layer will deliver the necessary water needed and provide you with lots more mushies. Casing isnt that hard, if you need any help Im sure someone would post a few links for you or you could search. There is also the option of PMing me and I can help you oot
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hilfloskind
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Re: Mycobags - To case or not to case... [Re: legallyhomeless]
#7400384 - 09/12/07 11:29 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah...it definitely looks like a sound decision. I guess it's almost a question of direct mycobag yield vs. cased yield. This is my first grow so I really don't know what the average bag yield is. I've seen some amazing pics of what appear to be mini-forests of shrooms filling entire cased trays. I assume it's a higher yield, just without knowing HOW much higher.
The casing tek on the shroomwizard guide involves simply using verm as a base, crumbled cake above it and a mix of potting soil and verm to cover the substrate layer...all within a plastic tray with an identical, inverted tray acting as a dome for humidity retention. It looks really attractive for it's simplicity. The casing recipes I've read here all seem a bit more intricate...peat moss, lime, coir, etc... Maybe I am too clueless still but is the potting soil/vermiculite mix too basic for decent results compared to the casing mixes here?
Thanks for the help!
-------------------- Given enough time for the generations to evolve, the predator produces particular survival adaptations in its prey which, through the circular operation of feedback, produce changes in the predator which again produce changes in the prey which again change the predator - etcetera, etcetera, etcetera...Many powerful forces do the same thing. You can count religions among such forces. -The Stolen Journals
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Re: Mycobags - To case or not to case... [Re: hilfloskind]
#7400513 - 09/12/07 12:03 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I've searched for Jiffy Mix on here after seeing it in stores too...Sounds like that might simply make a solid casing material within itself. Already mixed peat and verm in a 50/50.
So I'm thinking of doing this:
I'm going to get two smaller sets of containers to make self-contained humidity dome FC's.
Sterilize the Jiffy Mix in the oven @ 350F for 30 mins...cool completely.
Mist a portion of the Mix in a bowl until moist.
Layer about 1" of the moistened Mix on the bottom of each container, following each with the crumbled contents of one mycobag...ending with around 1/2" of loose Mix on top, misted until lightly moistened.
I'll then leave the 3rd mycobag as is and harvest it directly. I would anticipate that this should allow a "safety net" in the event that I botch my casing procedure and ruin one or both of the cased trays as a result.
Does this relatively loose process seem sound enough (assuming I'm taking the necessary sterility and cleanliness steps, etc)?
Sorry for being noobish, if I am sounding as such...I am really excited about my first foray into cultivation and I'm trying to be as thorough as possible BEFORE the bags arrive and the excitement becomes reckless.
-------------------- Given enough time for the generations to evolve, the predator produces particular survival adaptations in its prey which, through the circular operation of feedback, produce changes in the predator which again produce changes in the prey which again change the predator - etcetera, etcetera, etcetera...Many powerful forces do the same thing. You can count religions among such forces. -The Stolen Journals
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