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im a newb... and this is what ive got.
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Ok. so these are the supplies i have to start off.
I'm using Natural grain brown rice as a substrate...
though ive read its not the best to use (i should use organic brown rice flour or brown rye seeds with water)...
but this is what i have and i think it will work?
Anyways, I've also got the wide-mouth jars, the pressure cooker, the vermiculite, some aluminum foil, and some lysol for sterilization.



Now, when i fill the jars with the brown rice do i make a mixture of Vermiculite and brown rice (what are the portion amounts?), or do i fill the bottom with rice and put the vermiculite at the very top in-between the lid and the rice?

Then i put the aluminum foil on top of the lids to conceal the holes and put the jars in the pressure-cooker and cook them for 1 hour - at 250 F - 15 psi... then let them sit for 3 hours to cool down to room temperature... bring to a sterilized room, remove aluminum foil and inject spores into rice.  then move jars into a container and into a dark area at room temperature.

Forgive my unorganized manner of writing with my shabby idea of how things are supposed to go, but im strapped for time and am letting things flow. If youre able to comprehend this and see any problems with what im about to do, i would appreciate some feedback  :smile:
Like i said before, i dont believe using the brown rice as a substrate is the best but this is my first go at growing and its all experimentation and curiosity. Thanks again, friends. :wink:


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Re: im a newb... and this is what ive got. [Re: thePatient]
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Brown rice is fine. You don't need to use verm in your jars with rice. Verm is used with rice flour for aeration, so you dont have a solid mass of mud. Rice's physical structure allows for natural aeration without mixing in anything. Fill your jars about 1/3 the way with rice, and 1/5 water. Keep the jars in the PC as they cool-for about 6 hours or more (preferably overnight). Other than that, everything in your tek looks good.


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Edited by impeachme2 (09/09/07 09:53 AM)

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Re: im a newb... and this is what ive got. [Re: thePatient]
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I would say to use the search engine

Edited by orchidfanatic (09/09/07 09:37 AM)

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Re: I'm a newb... and this is what Ive got. [Re: thePatient]
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I think you need to take some more time a do a lot of reading.

You have to use brown rice FLOUR, and mix that with verm and water.
2 parts verm, 1 part rice flour, and 1 part water.

Then put that in the jars.... do not pack it...... it has to be nice and fluffy.

leave about 1/2 inch gap on top..... clean the glass in this gap throughly with a paper napkin.... and fill some dry verm..

make sure your lid has hole(s) for inoculation... cover this/these hole(s) with micro-pore tape (found in the first-aid section)
then cover with foil
and sterilize.

let it cool for however long it takes to be absolutely cool (it may feel cool on the outside but the core may still be warm... this will kill your spores) ........

read some more.

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Re: I'm a newb... and this is what Ive got. [Re: abesh]
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With my corrections, his tech is fine. I beleive you, abesh, need to use the search engine.


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Edited by impeachme2 (09/09/07 09:47 AM)

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Re: im a newb... and this is what ive got. [Re: impeachme2]
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impeachme2 said:
Brown rice is fine. You don't need to use verm in your jars with rice. Verm is used with rice flour for aeration, so you dont have a solid mass of mud. Rice's physical structure allows for natural aeration without mixing in anything. Keep the jars in the PC as they cool-for about 6 hours or more (preferably overnight). Other than that, everything in your tek looks good.


Guess I was wrong... I never knew that.

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Re: im a newb... and this is what ive got. [Re: abesh]
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But if one can do that then why use BRF??? or Rye?

Just wondering. I guess maybe the Rye because it does not stick together.. but why BRF?

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Re: im a newb... and this is what ive got. [Re: abesh]
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BRF is for cakes. With rice or grain, you can case. You can case with BRF, but this requires you to break it up, which is an added step which can be avoided by using rice or grain. Rye grain is more nutritive than brown rice, but brown rice can still be used.


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Edited by impeachme2 (09/09/07 09:57 AM)

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Re: im a newb... and this is what ive got. [Re: impeachme2]
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@ thePatient

May I write to you, that with Lysol one can only DISINFECT something. And if you want to learn, how to grow shrooms - as easy as making a cup of tea, then please click the link below. Usually a grow novice should start with the very simple PF-Tek = Brown long corn rice flour/Vermi/water.

Good grow


This is what you'll get.


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Re: im a newb... and this is what ive got. [Re: RadelBaluvar]
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couldn't he just grind up his rice and make BRF cakes?


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Re: im a newb... and this is what ive got. [Re: anarchOi]
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Yes he could grind up the rice with a coffee grinder to make brown rice flour.
Damn noisy though, I'd just go get a bag of BRF flour.
:jester:


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Re: im a newb... and this is what ive got. [Re: Peterthinks]
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werd

well the closest place to purchase BRF from where i live is like 45 mins away


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Re: im a newb... and this is what ive got. [Re: impeachme2]
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As i said in my original post, I know that i should be using BRF or brown rye seeds as a suitable nutritious substrate but im using ingredients found around my house (all i bought was verm.) Afoaf sent me some spores which im about to dump into distilled water and fill into a syringe.

I appreciate all the advice, even though most of the common mush. cult. users assume I haven't read much into the subject already. I've read several threads from search results through this forum, and i even found this tasty video to contain worthy informative information: Mushroom Growing Made Easy.

Anyways, i want to thank impeachme2 especially, and i have a small question.

impeachme2 said:
Fill your jars about 1/3 the way with rice, and 1/5 water.


Why do you only fill the jars 1/3 of the way with rice? It wouldn't be better to have more rice for the mycelium to spread to?


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Re: im a newb... and this is what ive got. [Re: thePatient]
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@ thePatient

One does not fill the jars to the top, because one wants to have a happy touch down... (see ShroomCity PF-Tek part3 on YouTube)

And:
One should allow the very hot jars to cool INSIDE the still closed PC for 25 hours. If one goes to a bio-store and let them grind the brown long corn rice, it takes - for 1kg = 2 pounds(?) at least 10 Minutes. With a coffee grinder, it will probably take 2 hours.... if the e-motor does not get kaputt. Those nasty corns are very though... smile me. And to be on the save side: Cook 90min with 249.8 °F at 15PSI.

And now please go to the laboratory...


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Re: im a newb... and this is what ive got. [Re: RadelBaluvar]
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quick Question:

if rye grain is more nutritious and delicious for our shroomies why dont we use ground up "rye grain flour" in cakes?


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Re: im a newb... and this is what ive got. [Re: just me]
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Because you'd need a PC to make rye cakes, and if you have rye and a PC you can skip cakes and go straight to grain teks.


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Re: im a newb... and this is what ive got. [Re: Dr_T]
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Or you can put the cart before the horse... smile me gently.

Good enlightenment...


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Re: im a newb... and this is what ive got. [Re: RadelBaluvar]
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the best advice i can give (which really isn't that much, considering i've only had a couple successful grows) is to just do it. and read up a lot on the FAQ and forums. these people are brilliant.

plus, you bought all of the expensive stuff already. if it goes to hell this time around, 20 bucks for new spores will give you another shot.

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Re: im a newb... and this is what ive got. [Re: Iolaa]
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dude go to walmart pick up a box of brown rice walk 2 isles over to the coffee grinder turn the knob to "fine" throw the rice in stick your empty box on there and grind it, then walk to the self checkout..its that easy.

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Re: im a newb... and this is what ive got. [Re: fallingaway24]
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...and free!...im a big "sampler" if i can use it in the store w/out buying it....FUCK YEA. goodluck too bro, i just knocked up 23 jars 3 days ago with 3 different strains, and they are coming along nicely. my GT, are colonizing extremely fast!


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