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cubensis loves hardwood chips!
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i had some b+ cakes that came down with some nasty yellow bacteria, like half bacteria half mycelium and threw them in a pile of hardwood chips from my chainsaw, mind that the chips were a year or two old so were somewhat composted, about a month or two later had a wicked flush!

just wondering can anyone positively tell me how safe it is to consume these seeing as they were spawned from potentially harmful bacterially contaminated cakes?

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Re: cubensis loves hardwood chips! [Re: ancientsoul]
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lucky ass :congrats:
did you use any shit or just wood chips?
how often did you water?


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Re: cubensis loves hardwood chips! [Re: wutang]
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Edited by nw_shroomy (04/01/09 12:38 AM)

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Re: cubensis loves hardwood chips! [Re: nw_shroomy]
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busted :lol:


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Re: cubensis loves hardwood chips! [Re: wutang]
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Edited by nw_shroomy (04/01/09 12:38 AM)

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Re: cubensis loves hardwood chips! [Re: nw_shroomy]
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i think what you are seeing is the darkening of the caps of the smaller ones that were very mature and the huge daddy hadn't reached that cap bruising state yet as it is off white,

they definitely looked different in the wood chips then i've ever seen tthem in dung or grains, different texture and smell and everthing,

no i'm sorry that's all the same type of cube in that pic...b+

i used no dung whatsoever just somewhat composted hardwood chips

so no one knows whether it is safe to eat these bacterially wise ey? does the bacterial contam in the spawn make it's way to the mushrooms in an outdoor bed?

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Re: cubensis loves hardwood chips! [Re: ancientsoul]
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I'm really going to have to try an outdoor grow one of these days

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Re: cubensis loves hardwood chips! [Re: nw_shroomy]
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nw_shroomy said:
Ya but why is there two different color of mushrooms there?


spore drop :shrug:


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Re: cubensis loves hardwood chips! [Re: ancientsoul]
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Assuming all of them are indeed Cubensis...then dry them before eating them,
and/or make them into tea.

You won't be disappointed. :rockon:

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Re: cubensis loves hardwood chips! [Re: RoachMan]
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i would try an outdoor tek when it starts to rain more often
but im afraid of stupid ass bugs


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Re: cubensis loves hardwood chips! [Re: RoachMan]
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eat em its okay, Even though the cakes were contammed. The fruits are still edible.

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Re: cubensis loves hardwood chips! [Re: wutang]
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not much rain is really needed, my area saw virtually no rain all the last 2 to 3 months, i didn't water them at all, they appeared after a couple small showers...if it is really dry tho you could just mist them a little with a hose maybe, just keep them slighty moist would be my guess, they get a lot of humidity just from the ground, after seeing this though i would highly recomend hardwood shavings for cube growth, i wanna try it indoors now

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Re: cubensis loves hardwood chips! [Re: RoachMan]
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RoachMan said:
Assuming all of them are indeed Cubensis...then dry them before eating them,
and/or make them into tea.

You won't be disappointed. :rockon:


but assuming with bacteria, teaing them might kill the bac itself but it wouldn't kill the endospores i don't believe?  i just don't want to get like staph or spinal meningjitus, i heard some bacteria can give that to you, i would rather not trip honestly, but i do want to eat them BAD

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Re: cubensis loves hardwood chips! [Re: ancientsoul]
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Hopefully, RR (or someone) will correct me if I'm wrong,
however, I do not believe mushrooms carry actual endospores.

Bacteria...YES; endospores...NO.

The process of drying and then making into tea would render all bacteria present on or within the mushroom material inert.


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Re: cubensis loves hardwood chips! [Re: RoachMan]
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anything can carry bacteria such as a tomato from the garden, a watermelon from the store, a mushroom from a dumped project, your kitchen counter, your couch or the air. My friends and I have eaten hundreds of mushrooms from dumped contam'd projects, no problems ever, except a few bugs but bugs will leave if you dehydrate, but chances are any fruit or vegetable you eat has had bugs on it. If you're that concerned about bugs having munched on it or bacteria killing you or making you sick, just make tea... boiling water will take care of it.


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Re: cubensis loves hardwood chips! [Re: CosmicFunGuy]
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ok, i see what you are saying it is just that grains and rice can produce some very dangerous breeds of bacteria, and drying them subsequently would kill the bacteria, but then teaing them may actually carry the endospores into you and the bacteria would again regerminate inside you is my worry, cuz some pc temps don't even kill some bacterial endospores, endospores being the "seeds" of the bacteria, but i did a tea last night and i will probably continue to do so, just wanted some second opinions because somewhere i read bright yellow/orange/pink bacteria can give you spinal men. and i got a seriously bad neck injury so i gotta be careful with that stuff... but anyhow i appreciate the help guys not trying to be argumentative just trying to be careful

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Re: cubensis loves hardwood chips! [Re: ancientsoul]
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you didn't grasp what i said i think.

tea will deal with the bacteria, drying wont.

drying in a dehydrator will help with getting rid of any bugs that may be in the gills or other sections that appear eaten it will also prevent molds and bacterias from growing on them before you eat them....

you are overreacting about endospores. they are not going to germinate in your body and cause you any of this harm you are fearing...  if it were the case that they would germinate in my body, i would have to soak the grain to germinate them before using rye grain to make bread, but the fact of the matter is i don't germinate the endospores in a soak. like you said PCing (and other methods of cooking) don't kill endospores, so if i make bread with the same rye i use for spawn (which i do) i'm making bread filled with endospores. when making rye bread in a commercial setting, the rye comes usually in the form of rye flour which is nothing but ground up rye grain, not ground rye grain that was soaked. The people in this household (4 people, sometimes guests as well) have eaten reubens (made with homemade rye bread form the same rye grain i use for spawn) at least 2-3 times a month for the past year or so since i learned to make it.

yes spinal meningitis can be caused by some bacteria, but not by endospores, the spores would need to germinate first...

if you just make tea with some boiling water, the bacteria will be dealt with and the endospores will be out of your body in no time, although even if they were to build a little endospore house in your intestine i don't think they'd be a problem, haven't been for me yet....


on that note like i said I've also eaten (and made tea, smoothies and chocolates) hundreds of mushrooms from contaminated projects that were thrown outside and also have not gotten sick from them once...

its good to be cautious, but i think theres a fine line between cautious and paranoid.... people here have been saying since before i joined over a year ago to throw contam'd projects out in your garden, directly as a result there have been hundreds of threads asking if "these shrooms are safe to consume" because the dumped project grew fruitbodies, consistenly time and time again the answer has been eat them damn shrooms....

now on a side note if you can clearly see a bacterial infection or mold of somesort actually growing on the mushroom, yea you should throw it out.

However, other than my experiences with eating mushooms from dumped contam'd projects.... hundreds of other users here have done the same.... my suggestion is that seeing how this is a common question, why not take advantage of the all powerful search function..

enjoy your mushrooms, calm down about it or the anxiety and worry about all of this will turn your trip sour....

happy shroomin :mushroom2:


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Re: cubensis loves hardwood chips! [Re: ancientsoul]
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those are really awesome but for heaven sake if they look wierd pitch them especially if you injured allready!


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Re: cubensis loves hardwood chips! [Re: wutang]
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outdoor bugs are tolerable. there is mysterious critters smaller than milkcrates that nibble your mushroooms away though.


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