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What is it called? is it even that much more effective??? what about rich man?
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So i made a glove box/FC and am missing one thing...a misting screen thing. I once found a design for this style of fruiting chamber via download of a shroom file on something like limewire a long time ago but now that i have searched all over, even google... still cant find it - even though i know its probably all over.

The design was basically like an aquarium, with that diagonal piece of glass/plexi inside that you would mist so you can just mist it right in there without hitting the mushrooms. Does anyone happen to have a link/ebook/download anything that just shows a picture of it that i could use for reference in finishing my box? All I need is to add that last little mist screen thing.(EDIT: its called a drip shield i remember now)

I can control the temp with this light setup i have for when temps drop to much or get to high. But with just the main design in mind, would you say it has better advantages then the rubbermaid tub fc's? such as how you can just mist right into the box with no worries.

I will attach a photo of my box i hope to finish this box design im trying to find.. i know it was used allot back in the day, and is really pricey if bought directly from the company. And i actually just remembered what the box's are called "RICH MANS INCUBATORS" or something of the sort.... and i just did some searching and still no results with pictures or anything.

Any input from all you shroomers/mycologists would be highly appreciated! I want to stick my dunked cakes in it asap hehe.
~Frieden
peace


(EDIT: FORGOT PICTURE )

Edited by Peace (07/31/07 11:32 PM)

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Re: What is it called? is it even that much more effective??? what about rich man? [Re: Peace]
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wtf?

"A glove box/FC"?

A misting screen is a FC remnant from PF, and is unnecessary.

The rest of your post is inane. A glovebox is used for sterile work. An incubator is for post-inoculation growth.

You seem to be claiming your box is supposed to be used for every step of the process. Some reading, or clarification, would help. I don't even see a real question.

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Re: What is it called? is it even that much more effective??? what about rich man? [Re: CaptainLinger]
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are you talking about a drip shield? thats oldschool, damp pearlite eliminates the need to misting.

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Re: What is it called? is it even that much more effective??? what about rich man? [Re: gerbletits]
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What you're looking for is this http://www.fanaticus.com/D.C.T.htm

But you do seem a little confused as to what all the boxes do. It's possible to use the same box for different steps, but not simultaneously, and you'll have to set it up differently each time. Incubators, glove boxes, fruiting chambers are all different things.

But don't buy anything like that, they are all super easy to make yourself, and I'm sure you can find plenty of info here for how to make each one.


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Re: What is it called? is it even that much more effective??? what about rich man? [Re: Peace]
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Alright cool thanks.

Good point there Linger; My plan originally was to just do one full grow, however many flushes that is, then was going to reallocate to europe for schooling cause i just finished up here at VFS in Canada. But I'm just going to hold off another 2 months before I go so now i will probably be able to do two grows.... hence this FC/GB was a compete waste.

I will just modify it when the time comes and cut of a bit of the top so its not so tall and get rid of the holes for gloves. 

The plan though was to use the GB i made for inoculating the jars, i then placed them inside my rubbermade incubator, and while they were colonizing prepared the GB for becoming an FC. Then would put the colonized cakes in there, do a full grow, clean up, eat all the mushies, and leave for europe.

I'll just fix it up so it can be a permanent FC. And just make a smaller box to simply be the glovebox.

My reason though for wondering what a drip shield was called is because i think the FC may be way to large to sustain a relative humidity of 98% just from the perlite alone, hence the reason for the drip screen.

Sorry for the mix-up and misunderstanding. I already know about fc's, incubators, glovebox's and what their used for... i made my incubator about a year ago with a nice water heater i picked up for cheap cause the box was damaged at petco hah! this is what it looks like...

I'm just glad I'll finally be able to use it ....one year after attempting my first grow (and failing) I'm trying again and with a pressure cooker i had money for this time. So far 3 of the 6 jars are fully colonized, mycology is one hell of an interesting subject (science?). Now I can finally participate and put the years worth of on and off reading around the forums to work :werd:

~Paz :cheers:
Peace

{ps - thanks for the link mycofile, good stuff)

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Re: What is it called? is it even that much more effective??? what about rich man? [Re: Peace]
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Perlite should work fine for keeping the humidity up. Back in my cake days I had 40-ish gallon terreriums full of cakes and used 2 inches or so of wet perlite for humidity.


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Re: What is it called? is it even that much more effective??? what about rich man? [Re: Peace]
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I still don't understand a word of this :/

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Re: What is it called? is it even that much more effective??? what about rich man? [Re: CaptainLinger]
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CaptainLinger said:
wtf?

"A glove box/FC"?

A misting screen is a FC remnant from PF, and is unnecessary.

The rest of your post is inane. A glovebox is used for sterile work. An incubator is for post-inoculation growth.

You seem to be claiming your box is supposed to be used for every step of the process. Some reading, or clarification, would help. I don't even see a real question.


CaptainLinger said:
I still don't understand a word of this :/



yes, i explaned that though afterwords it was my mistake, i drilled the 2 glove holes so i could just use it as a glove box that one time...cause i thought that was going to be the last time..

Wouldn't help keep the humidity up though in such a large turanium? My humidity level is only going up to 90%. And it would make misting alot easyer so you could me more careless with your misting and not worry about contact with the cakes.

Yes I know a glovebox is used for sterile work, and that an incubator is for post-inoculation growth.

There were many real questions. I see question marks. Other than that I don't know what to say...
thanks guys, just need to know that last thing i guess, if 90% humidity is alright.

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Re: What is it called? is it even that much more effective??? what about rich man? [Re: Peace]
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heres the modified box. i cut it in half pretty much

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Re: What is it called? is it even that much more effective??? what about rich man? [Re: Peace]
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Bin with gloves cut in it = $15

Bin with perlite in the bottom for humidity = $15

Total = $30


Why do all the work of building one you can use for all the steps, having to modify it for each step. And I have HUGE bins with perlite in them that reach 95%+ humidity. If you're at 90% and that's all the higher it will go using perlite, you're doing something wrong.

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Re: What is it called? is it even that much more effective??? what about rich man? [Re: ryanwgrad]
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Oh, and as said above... a drip shield is not necessary. I never used one and I've had great success.

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Re: What is it called? is it even that much more effective??? what about rich man? [Re: Peace]
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it cost me 3$, the plexi was at a construction site heh it was a nice find. And the two bags of perlite were buy one get one free.

And i understand the drip shield is not necessary, dont get me wrong i'm taking your advice and whatnot, i just think it would be easyer to mist with no worries about hitting the cakes just a quick mist without being careful or too meticulous. And its helping the humidity stay 5% higher. I'll figure something out...maybe to much air is somehow leaking from the lid.

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Re: What is it called? is it even that much more effective??? what about rich man? [Re: Peace]
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Just don't mist the lid. It's not necessary anyway. If you just mist the walls then there is no drip shield needed and there's no way you'd get the mushies wet just from misting the walls. Maybe the lack of humidity is from your horribly thin layer of perlite. In the pic on the right side it looks like it's lucky to hit 1" high. That's really low for the perlite level.

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Re: What is it called? is it even that much more effective??? what about rich man? [Re: ryanwgrad]
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ryanwgrad said:
Just don't mist the lid. It's not necessary anyway. If you just mist the walls then there is no drip shield needed and there's no way you'd get the mushies wet just from misting the walls. Maybe the lack of humidity is from your horribly thin layer of perlite. In the pic on the right side it looks like it's lucky to hit 1" high. That's really low for the perlite level.



possibly but i thought this would be enough perlite i will add more. This is how much has been in it since i started taking humidity measurements.

(edit) Im just going to get a thing that mists every so hours and forget the drip shield, and leave it at that. dont want to have to mist 3 times a day to keep the humidity up - i'll forget to mist sometimes.

thanks for the help guys.

Edited by Peace (08/03/07 12:39 AM)

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Re: What is it called? is it even that much more effective??? what about rich man? [Re: Peace]
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Just use 3-4" of perlite. You don't actually have to mist... but you will have to fan 3-5 times a day. Since misting doesn't hurt... why not mist each time you fan? If you get used to the idea of misting everytime you fan you won't forget. Up to you though.

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Re: What is it called? is it even that much more effective??? what about rich man? [Re: ryanwgrad]
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ryanwgrad said:
Just use 3-4" of perlite. You don't actually have to mist... but you will have to fan 3-5 times a day. Since misting doesn't hurt... why not mist each time you fan? If you get used to the idea of misting everytime you fan you won't forget. Up to you though.



Yeah that would be a better idea heh, I'm overdoing so many things cause I'm becoming obsessed and excited with this (and just got a prescription of adderal) so need to just kinda keep it simple and not get ahead of myself anymore. Hope this first grow goes good.

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