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Offlinelois_must_die420
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Perlite: should the walls be damp!
    #3143412 - 09/16/04 02:14 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Basically, I put about 1.5in of wet perlite in my terrarium for practice (nothing inside), waited overnight, and now there is very little sign of dampness. The lid had a wee bit of water on it but hardly enough to do anything. Is this normal for the perlite tek? People have said theirs gets so much water that its a prob. so im pretty sure somethings wrong, prob. not enough wet perlite???

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Re: Perlite: should the walls be damp! [Re: lois_must_die420]
    #3143589 - 09/16/04 03:03 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

The humidity can still be very high even if there is no condensation on the walls of your terrarium!!! I good way to test your terrarium's humidity level is to mist the walls with water and see how long it remains there. If the humidity is high, the water will remain on the walls for a long time.


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Re: Perlite: should the walls be damp! [Re: lois_must_die420]
    #3143699 - 09/16/04 03:32 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Perlite has such small holes that give off tiny drops of water. You cant see it most of the time. I use geolite, that has bigger holes, with a bubbbler. The next thing is lava rock which has large holes for bacteria to grow in. That is one reason everyone uses perlite, bacteria cant grow in holes. You could add a bubbler to increase humidity and fresh air exchange. I turn my bubbler off at night and in the morning I can see the drops of water on the walls and top of my terrarium. So dense I cant even read my hygrometer.


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Re: Perlite: should the walls be damp! [Re: AhHaHaHa]
    #3144004 - 09/16/04 04:15 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Just Mist the walls and top down to up the RH. Are you doing casings or cakes?


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Re: Perlite: should the walls be damp! [Re: AhHaHaHa]
    #3144011 - 09/16/04 04:17 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Ok, I've never heard the bacteria argument for what to choose for humidity.

So the holes in perlite are too small for bacteria to grow in, is that what you're saying? That doesn't seem to make much sense...

Feel like explaining in greater detail?


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Re: Perlite: should the walls be damp! [Re: lois_must_die420]
    #3144106 - 09/16/04 04:36 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

awesome....thanks my friends


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Re: Perlite: should the walls be damp! [Re: lois_must_die420]
    #3144145 - 09/16/04 04:47 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I dont think you are well informed on this topic, ive seen alge growing on pearlite in pots when using organic tea's. So yes there are many nooks for growth on pearlite. Throw h2O2 in the water and dillute H2O2 1:1 and mist your peralite to keep the contams down.


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Re: Perlite: should the walls be damp! [Re: Gr0wer]
    #3144283 - 09/16/04 05:25 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Lois Must Die420, I'd really like to hear your justification for your previous comment, because one of the biggest problems for newbies on this board is misinformation from people who aren't fully informed.

So if you don't know what you're talking about, please refrain (I know that sounds really mean, but I know someone who almost demolished a grow due to someone telling them WBS could be boiled in jars rather than PC'd if the expense was too great).

Thanks.


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Re: Perlite: should the walls be damp! [Re: MycoCat]
    #3144670 - 09/16/04 06:59 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Perlite is a pourous rock just like lava rock, geolite. There are many types of bacteria that feed on mushrooms. All bacteria needs is an area, moisture and the proper temp to thrive. Cant find a better place than a small hole where nothing disturbs it. Perlite has such a tiny hole that there is less chance of bacterial growth. I am not saying it cant grow in there, just a lesser chance. When cleansed with H2O2 the chance is even less. I use bleach with my geolite. Geolite has larger holes than perlite and lava rock has the largest holes of the pourous rocks. Better chance of bacterial growth with larger holes. Take for example a fish pond filter. Some of those contain lava rock. When you add decomposing bacteria it grows in the small spaces and cleans the water. Some pond filtors use air conditioning filters to support bacterial growth.

"bacteria cant grow in holes", oops I guess I did say that. What I meant to say is less chance for growth. My apologies.


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Re: Perlite: should the walls be damp! [Re: AhHaHaHa]
    #3144735 - 09/16/04 07:20 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Well I don't know if that's right or not, but it sounds scientific, I'll give you that.


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Re: Perlite: should the walls be damp! [Re: MycoCat]
    #3145438 - 09/16/04 10:15 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I'm with you Mycocat, I spent five years getting a bio degree and if I learned one thing, it's bacteria is everywhere and in every shape and size.  Regardless of the material, bacteria can thrive in almost every condition.  Add any form of humidity and nutrients and the risk of contamination is almost inevitable, unless proper techniques are taken to avoid it.  Smaller holes in the material just means more holes, thus increasing the surface area even more, so the argument could probably go either way as to what material harbours more bacteria.  We all have to be very careful in what we say, we are like a big team here, and we need to work together in making everyone's harvests successful....good luck all :smile:


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Re: Perlite: should the walls be damp! [Re: lois_must_die420]
    #15937474 - 03/12/12 02:19 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

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