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Passiflora incarnata
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Does anybody grow Passiflora incarnata and put it into use?
Does anyone use Passiflora incarnata in Ayahuasca?
Can passiflora provide a sufficent MAOI for oral DMT activaty?


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Re: Passiflora incarnata [Re: Teotzlcoatl]
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yeahh, passiflora is really easy to grow...

i use very often an extraction of passiflora instead of other MAOIs.
it is really a good substitute!


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Re: Passiflora incarnata [Re: Entersandman]
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what do you feel is the difference between passiflora and caapi...how does the trip differ.....you ever use passiflora and shrooms?


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Re: Passiflora incarnata [Re: Teotzlcoatl]
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Teotzlcoatl said:
what do you feel is the difference between passiflora and caapi...how does the trip differ.....you ever use passiflora and shrooms?


i never used Caapi so i can´t make any comparison.
the only thing i heard is that Passiflora is smoother than other MaoIs.

i used passiflora and shrooms for the first time a few weeks ago.it fucked me up.the trip was the heaviest one i´ve ever gotten.i became nauseous and i couldn´t breathe anymore.i saw only bad things like demons and other ill things...
But nevertheless the trip became very spiritual and i was very suprized what came after the horror visions after some time and i could normally breathe again.
it was the most mystical trip i´ve ever experienced but i wouldn´t recommend anyone combining these 2 substances together.

i´m an experienced psychonaut and i was aware of the risks using MAOIs with shrooms but i thought i could control the trip in a way.i was totally wrong.i think i won´t use them together again.


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Re: Passiflora incarnata [Re: Entersandman]
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so when you make a passiflora extraction...do you use leaves, flower, vine, and fuirt? or just one...? Do you make a water extraction or alcohol? Do you use fresh material or dried? About how much (weight) would you estimate you use?


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Re: Passiflora incarnata [Re: Teotzlcoatl]
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what are the differences in the passion vines i found some growing wild how to tell apart incarnata and other species? the ones i found have purple squiggly flowers and like 3 prong shaped oak leaves almost

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Re: Passiflora incarnata [Re: Teotzlcoatl]
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Teotzlcoatl said:
so when you make a passiflora extraction...do you use leaves, flower, vine, and fuirt? or just one...? Do you make a water extraction or alcohol? Do you use fresh material or dried? About how much (weight) would you estimate you use?


i use dried plant material i.e. leaves and vine...
i make an alc extract-i think a water extract won´t work,but i don´t know.
i used 5 grams dried material in a strong Everclear.


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Re: Passiflora incarnata [Re: nobodyspecial]
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nobodyspecial said:
what are the differences in the passion vines i found some growing wild how to tell apart incarnata and other species? the ones i found have purple squiggly flowers and like 3 prong shaped oak leaves almost


i really don´t know all the passiflora species but a lot of them don´t contain any MAO inhibiting substances.


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Re: Passiflora incarnata [Re: Entersandman]
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some contain poisons only use it if you know its passiflora incarnata


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Re: Passiflora incarnata [Re: Teotzlcoatl]
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well how did you guys know what you took was passiflora incarnata?

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Re: Passiflora incarnata [Re: nobodyspecial]
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nobodyspecial said:
well how did you guys know what you took was passiflora incarnata?


we bought seeds from a vendor :hehehe:


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Re: Passiflora incarnata [Re: Entersandman]
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ya i'd say its almost impossible for anybody but the most highly trained botanitst to tell the difference between the passiflora species, they all like just alike if you ask me....


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Re: Passiflora incarnata [Re: Teotzlcoatl]
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The best way to differentiate is the flowers (like most plants), some are quite similiar but some are quite different u should b able to work out what one u have got. Check out erowid for pics.

MAOI's are suspected in most Passiflora.

caerulea (stinky passionflower) is to b avoided.

Most passiflora contain cyanide so use caution.

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Re: Passiflora incarnata [Re: shruman]
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passion flower grows wild everywhere where I live, but they also contain poison so I wouldn't use it. The flowers are amazingly spectacular. They are best to propagate from seeds in the fruit, and do not transplant well. I killed one really nice one trying to dig it up from the wild and put it in a pot, it hated that. Passiflora incarnata

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Re: Passiflora incarnata [Re: Knoa6]
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Re: Passiflora incarnata [Re: AgingHippy]
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Does anyone know about the difference between the chemicals in caapi and the chemicals in passiflora; Has anybody used them at the same time?.....and is the poison really dangerous? i think not....


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Re: Passiflora incarnata [Re: Teotzlcoatl]
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Teotzlcoatl said:
Does anyone know about the difference between the chemicals in caapi and the chemicals in passiflora; Has anybody used them at the same time?.....and is the poison really dangerous? i think not....

the maoi concentration in passionflower is going to be a lot less than that of caapi, so you'd need a strong passionflower extract to be able to use it effectively imo


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Re: Passiflora incarnata [Re: AgingHippy]
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yes i understand that...my idea is to use mostly caapi and some passiflora, just enough to "color"(enhance) the experience with the unique passiflora chemicals.


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Re: Passiflora incarnata [Re: Teotzlcoatl]
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"Does anyone know about the difference between the chemicals in caapi and the chemicals in passiflora; Has anybody used them at the same time?.....and is the poison really dangerous? i think not...."

From what I've found Passiflora incarnata has harman, hamine, harmaline, harmol, and harmalol, I dont think there is a major difference but it is lacking probly the most interesing Beta carboline tetrahydroharmine. U may have a slighty different experience though I dont know.

Cyanogenic glucosides are deadly, Im sure u've heard of cyanide (deadly chemical only trace amounts are needed to kill), caerulea contains fairly high levels & should b avoided, most contain cyanide so use caution.

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Re: Passiflora incarnata [Re: shruman]
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You said- "From what I've found Passiflora incarnata has harman, hamine, harmaline, harmol, and harmalol, I dont think there is a major difference but it is lacking probly the most interesing Beta carboline tetrahydroharmine. U may have a slighty different experience though I dont know."

Does incarnata have no unique chemicals caapi does not have?


You said- "Cyanogenic glucosides are deadly, Im sure u've heard of cyanide (deadly chemical only trace amounts are needed to kill), caerulea contains fairly high levels & should b avoided, most contain cyanide so use caution. "

Do you think the levels in INCARNATA are anything to worry about? If they are...what should I do about them?


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