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Invisiblespoonman
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Boiling: how much potency loss?
    #710118 - 06/29/02 02:32 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

What do you guys think about the amount of potency lost in fresh mushrooms
when boiled, lid on for 10 minutes, then straining the juice, pitching the husks and drinking it?

I havent ever done it another way and have heard everything from:

1. psilocybin is destroyed by boiling
2. some potency is lost
3. a lot of potency is lost
4. lid on, short boils lose no potency

Is there ANY reliable information on this?

Thanks in advance!


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Re: Boiling: how much potency loss? [Re: spoonman]
    #710446 - 06/29/02 07:21 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

Some people say they lose a shitload of potency but I know they still work when I boil them. I did some like 4 days ago, had a bunch to begin with, stuffed them all in a stocking and tied it at the top. Boiled some water, threw the stocking with shrooms in there and kept smashing it untill all the shrooms were pretty much just flat. I never turned the water off once. I let them boil for about a hour and half untill most of the water was completly gone and all I was left was with this blackish/purplish syrup looking stuff. 5 people drank 1/2 cup full and we tripped ballz. I would say a easy level 3 border line level 4.


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Re: Boiling: how much potency loss? [Re: spoonman]
    #710464 - 06/29/02 07:38 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

why would you want to do that.. just curious, taste?


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Re: Boiling: how much potency loss? [Re: nugsarenice]
    #710477 - 06/29/02 07:45 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

I boil them b/c its alot easier than having to eat them. I cant stand the taste fresh, or dry, so I just boil them down and chug the nasty juice really quick and then its done and over with. All thats left after that is waiting. I mix it with powerade though. The one called jagged ice. Masked the taste pretty good.


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Re: Boiling: how much potency loss? [Re: Killa420]
    #710478 - 06/29/02 07:45 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

have you ever tried eating with peanut butter?


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Re: Boiling: how much potency loss? [Re: nugsarenice]
    #710497 - 06/29/02 07:57 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

not to change the subject, but I totally love that saying, "Money is meaningless if not mobilized for the good of man"


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Re: Boiling: how much potency loss? [Re: drow]
    #710499 - 06/29/02 07:59 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

some Iranian dude at a peace conference with Larouche said it,, you can look further into at larouchepub.com


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Re: Boiling: how much potency loss? [Re: nugsarenice]
    #710597 - 06/29/02 08:51 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

you dont need to boil the water, you just need pretty hot water, you dont want the temp to really get above 120 degrees. Just keep the burner on a lower heat and it works very good and i found it still keeps a good potency level. Try just eating them fresh or dry with ranch dressing, it really covers the taste of the mushrooms.


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Re: Boiling: how much potency loss? [Re: spoonman]
    #710948 - 06/29/02 11:07 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

Psilocine is water soluable and psilocybine is not.
your body has to convert the psilocine into psilocybine before you get off..

You lose over half the high when making a tea. However, you get off in ten minutes and you come down in a few hours formthe intense rush of visual effects which occur when taken in the form of liquids.

If you eat the shrooms slowly in a twenty minute period then you have a high for from four to six hours not for a few like with tea.

Have a good one.


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Re: Boiling: how much potency loss? [Re: spoonman]
    #711474 - 06/29/02 04:17 PM (21 years, 2 months ago)

I have found the best method to consume
the sacred fungi (either wet or dry) is to
blend thoroughly with OJ (no more than a cup
and a half worth of liquid) and drink quickly.

It does a pretty good job on masking the taste
and boosts the body?s vitamin C for the ensuing
depletion brought on by the mushroom.

The method is simple, and when combined with
at least a 4-8 hour fast, the effects typically last
6+ hours.

It is equally important to take a calcium supplement
AFTER the experience. The mushroom depletes calcium
from muscle tissue. That is why some people experience
muscle cramping at higher level dosages. However,
calcium taken prior to an experience will actually retard
the effects.



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Re: Boiling: how much potency loss? [Re: mjshroomer]
    #711774 - 06/29/02 06:23 PM (21 years, 2 months ago)

replying to mj...

so if i boil the mushrooms, and i let the mushrooms sit in there for a while, and drink the liquid, then eat the mushrooms? I'll be "getting off" in ten minutes, but i will be gettinf 100% of the mushroom too right?


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Re: Boiling: how much potency loss? [Re: spoonman]
    #716490 - 07/01/02 06:04 PM (21 years, 2 months ago)

Coffe grinder + shrooms = powder

Powder + Empty capsules = no taste :0 heheheh just talk albit longer to digest the gelitin but personally they taste like p00p so it doesnt need to be instant if i aint got to taste it or something


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Re: Boiling: how much potency loss? [Re: spoonman]
    #716510 - 07/01/02 06:20 PM (21 years, 2 months ago)

This belongs in the General Questions forum, moving it over there.

-Gumby


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