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Offlinekungfu
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Psilocybin and heat... a definitive answer?
    #2978907 - 08/08/04 07:24 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

There seems to be a great deal of disagreement as to whether heat has an effect on the active chemicals in magic mushrooms. I found this article on Erowid (which I have always thought of as a reliable source):

http://www.erowid.org/plants/mushrooms/mushrooms_info7.shtml

...which says that there is little or no effect. However, I've heard countless other people say that it has a profound effect. Does anyone have a definitive answer (actual testing/experience)?

The reason I ask is I've been looking around for the best possible tea recipe (I'd love more of these, too, if anyone has any), but I've been a little put off by the whole heat issue.

Any help would be greatly appreciated...
Heat has...
You may choose only one
...no effect.
...a marginal effect.
...a significant effect.


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Re: Psilocybin and heat... a definitive answer? [Re: kungfu]
    #2978986 - 08/08/04 07:55 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

just boil the water take it off the heat and drop in the grinded, dry mush (dry works a lot better/quicker ime) and put a lid on and let it sit for 20-30mins+. you can add flavoring or whatever at anytime, usually i just throw a tea bag in with the mush then filter and drink and you can hardly taste it. little to no notacable potency loss :stoned:


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Re: Psilocybin and heat... a definitive answer? [Re: kungfu]
    #2978995 - 08/08/04 07:58 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

>Does anyone have a definitive answer (actual testing/experience)?

Yes. Heat (up to that of boiling water) has little to no effect if applied for a short period of time.

>I've been looking around for the best possible tea recipe

Best Possible Mushroom Tea RecipeTM

Grind mushrooms to powder with an electric coffee mill,
bring half a cup of water per dose to boil,
remove from flame,
stir in the powder(optionally add fruit tea for better taste),
stir occasionally for 5 minutes,
strain the tea.
Add half a cup of cold water, or ice cubes to bring the temperature down so you are able to drink it,
drink.


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Re: Psilocybin and heat... a definitive answer? [Re: Anno]
    #2979173 - 08/08/04 09:35 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

>Does anyone have a definitive answer (actual testing/experience)?

I believe it was In the Magic Mushrooms Growers Guide, by Oss and Oeric that you can even dry Mushrooms in your oven at a temperature of 120F with a slight to no loss of potency.

In my experience mushrooms tea is a very pleasent way to ingest mushrooms, with no loss of potency.

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Re: Psilocybin and heat... a definitive answer? [Re: Anno]
    #2979184 - 08/08/04 09:39 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

thanks for the quick help... I guess there's conflicting views on the poll because I didn't define 'heat'... i mean, throwing the mushrooms in a fire would certainly have an 'effect'.

Possibly Better Mushroom Tea Recipe?

I've heard a little acidity helps the water to absorb the psilocybin... perhaps some lemon juice... true?

thanks...


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Re: Psilocybin and heat... a definitive answer? [Re: kungfu]
    #2979335 - 08/08/04 10:43 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I tried this, didn't notice any difference. If you grind the mushrooms to a fine powder before you are making the tea, then you will get the best yield regardless of any additions to water.


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Re: Psilocybin and heat... a definitive answer? [Re: kungfu]
    #2979871 - 08/09/04 01:45 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

No controversy there. Heat is alright, up to a certain point. Psilocybin breaks down when it's been in boiling water for too long. So don't let the water boil, let it simmer.

Although I disagree with the part about smoking shrooms. I think the heat from the flame breaks down most of the psilocybin. Personal opinion though.

We need to legalize drugs already, so we can research them. How can you make something you can't even comprehend illegal.


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Re: Psilocybin and heat... a definitive answer? [Re: kungfu]
    #2983216 - 08/09/04 09:09 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I use fresh mushrooms, boil water, turn off heat add mushrooms and leave for 20mins with lid on, mash up the mushrooms every 5 mins or so, pour brew into coffee plunger, plunge, pour, add flavouring of you choice( i like lemon tea and honey), enjoy :smile:


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Re: Psilocybin and heat... a definitive answer? [Re: kungfu]
    #2987637 - 08/10/04 08:06 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Trust me it is a significant reduction of goodies.

HEAT DESTROYS PSILOCYBIN.


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    #2988892 - 08/11/04 12:39 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Psilocybin and heat... a definitive answer? [Re: Yrtlzmo]
    #2990030 - 08/11/04 08:32 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

makes me want to listen his advice huh???
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