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will P. Cubensis always bruise blue
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My mushroom which I belive to be a P. Cubensis has yet to bruise blue, no bruises are noticeable and its been drying for about 3 days.

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Re: will P. Cubensis always bruise blue [Re: shroomyfriend]
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Don't eat it. All Ps. cubensis I have seen bruise blue. If you believe it is active, that is one thing seperate from knowing what it is.


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Re: will P. Cubensis always bruise blue [Re: CureCat]
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not a cube

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Re: will P. Cubensis always bruise blue [Re: Shrum821]
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I had bruiseless shrooms grown from spores right from a PF cake... I posted about it, thinking they would be less active, and Roger Rabbit said sometimes they don't bruise.

I ate it.

It worked. :shrug:

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Re: will P. Cubensis always bruise blue [Re: RoosterCogburn]
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Yes, but in that case you knew they were Ps. cubensis.


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Re: will P. Cubensis always bruise blue [Re: CureCat]
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Post a picture next time, duh

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Re: will P. Cubensis always bruise blue [Re: shroomyfriend]
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a pic is on the way if my phone would send it!!

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Re: will P. Cubensis always bruise blue [Re: CureCat]
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CureCat said:
Yes, but in that case you knew they were Ps. cubensis.



I know I knew. :smile:

I was just making a comment in response to your:

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All Ps. cubensis I have seen bruise blue.



I wouldn't have made the comment if I didn't know for sure they were indeed P. cube.

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Re: will P. Cubensis always bruise blue [Re: RoosterCogburn]
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..Which is her point, knowing what they are. Before you've handled them and/or grew them, you don't know much about the variability of the species.
Example: I've found bunches of mushrooms that I think were Gymnopolis spectabilis, but have never tried them b/c I'm not gonna eat anything that doesn't bruise blue (even though the more mature specimens bruise less).

And yes, I agree, I've had powerful cubes that didn't bruise much and less potent ones that blued like a magic marker!


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"That's why you get in close to them, and then take the picture!! Don't be a pussy!" ~CC

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Re: will P. Cubensis always bruise blue [Re: shroomyfriend]
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no, P. cubensis will not always bruise blue, but if you have picked several specimens and none of them bruise blue then it is less likely that you have cubes.

i have had cubes which, even when completely fresh from poist conditions are hard to bruise but this tends to be one or two specimens out of many which bruise readily.

i have noticed in Psilocybes that if they are on thier way to drying [refer: P. semilanceata] it is sometimes impossible to bruise them.

what you have to do firstly is confirm that they infact belong to the genus Psilocybe, as this pretty much eliminates the danger. from that point, confirming P. cubensis can be much easier.

in identification, it is crucial that you start from the beginning and work to the end, an id. cutting out steps in between is unsafe for those not already familiar with the mushrooms in question.


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Attn PWN hunters: If you should come across a bluing Psilocybe matching P. pellicolusa please smell it.
If you detect a scent reminiscent of Anethole (anise) please preserve a specimen or two for study and please PM me.

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Re: will P. Cubensis always bruise blue [Re: CureCat] * 1
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CureCat said:

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All Ps. cubensis I have seen bruise blue



Not all cubensis will bruise blue if properly handled and includes especially ones in a pasture, rice paddie or paddock or meadows, or even from elephant shit.

You could have one blue or none at all or squeeze them while you pick them and get much bluing and lose of psilocine.

Here are some fresh dried and drying shrooms with no bluing.

I also have in vitro dried images which also show no bluing because of proper handling.



Ants chewed into these caps below over night as they dried in my bungalow on Samui andas they were drying they never showed any bluing in the caps or stems.




I might also point out since someone brought this subject up. Not all psilocybine mushrooms will display bluing, sometimes ever those which are heavy in psilocine.

Liberty caps might have one in every 1,000 or more with a little bluiny, but generally show no bluing at all. potent at 1-2 dried grams. Panaaeolus subbalteatus sometimes displayslight bluing at the base of the stems, sometimes completely, but rare, all blue stems and usually the red-brown coloration of the stems of the Pan subbs hide any bluing. I have also had specimens of P. pelliculosa, P. cyanescens and P. azurescens with no bluing showing and many times blue ringers will not have a blue ring on them or even bluing in their stems.

So there are cubes with no visible bluing in them but still potent as cubes at 1-5 gram dosages.

mj

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Re: will P. Cubensis always bruise blue [Re: mjshroomer]
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You guys... I'm not saying that Psilocybe cubensis always bruise blue. I KNOW that some do not. However, I have not SEEN this for myself.


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Re: will P. Cubensis always bruise blue [Re: CureCat]
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that's why i'm mentioning not only that i have, but under what circumstances.


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Attn PWN hunters: If you should come across a bluing Psilocybe matching P. pellicolusa please smell it.
If you detect a scent reminiscent of Anethole (anise) please preserve a specimen or two for study and please PM me.

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Re: will P. Cubensis always bruise blue [Re: canid]
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Yes, thank you, though my comment was not directed at you..


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