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Re: Which way up... Upsidedown
    #69747 - 12/27/99 08:28 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

No dude, I am far from upset, actually glad someone else has this question. It is totally not addressed in the PFtek or the MMGG.

But here is the answer (i think, correct me if i'm wrong).

If you incubated your cakes one direction, you should leave them that direction in the fruiting chamber. Pins and mushrooms will for the most part form on the top.

However, if you flipped them over when you put them in the fruiting chamber, the pins will form and try to grow underneath the cake (this happened to me).

Because of this some people will incubate their jars 'upside down' so that they can birth them and keep them that way with the vermiculite down. I guess gravity does play some role in the mycelium's determination of where to pin. But whatever way they were incubated, keep them that way in the fruiting chamber (even if they seem to be upside down).

Note: If you are casing this really doesn't matter cause you will crumble your cakes anyway.



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Re: Which way up... Upsidedown
    #69749 - 12/27/99 08:50 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

This is one of the funnier things for me, since I've ran into a few people who swear if you fruit your cakes upside down from how they were colonized, the shrooms will be confused and grow from the bottom.
So I follow the instructions, and make sure the cakes are fruited with the same orientation as they were colonized.
Low and behold shrooms tried to grow from the bottom.

So I believe the shrooms growing from the bottom has to do with something besides how the cakes are colonized, and see no reason that they can't be fruited upside or rightside down.

Perhaps it has more to do with the water settling at the bottom of the cake after being fruited, or the top drying out from heat.

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Re: Which way up... Upsidedown
    #69750 - 12/28/99 05:01 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

well, Buffalo Trance, in my experience i wouldn't agree because I turned some of my cakes 'upside down' and left some right side up in another experiment, and they all formed pins on what had been the top during incubation, regardless of whether it was the current correct direction.


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Re: Which way up... Upsidedown
    #69751 - 12/28/99 02:43 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Cheers people,
I had to resort to growing my own because here in the UK the weather is so shit most of the time it is hard to find any mushrooms.


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Re: Which way up... Upsidedown
    #69752 - 12/28/99 03:56 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I was wondering that too. So what I did was half way through colonization I flipped mine. So in theory they should grow staight out. Hahaha!!! I guess I will see.


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Re: Which way up... Upsidedown
    #69753 - 12/28/99 05:58 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

wow... you're shitting me. i just did it the way it's shown on the PF website... verm seal down. i guess those cakes must have been incubated upside down... damnit i just birthed all my first cakes and laid them on the perlite in the wrong direction, apparently. argh. so you're saying that no mushrooms will ever come out of the side that was on the botom during incubation? those fucking beginner grow files really should be updated, they tend to leave out some stuff.


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Re: Which way up... Upsidedown
    #69754 - 12/28/99 08:33 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Okay folks don't worry about which way to birth them. If you want larger flushes, larger shrooms, and more potent ones, then crumble them and case them. It will be well worth the effort. Trust me, I was too lazy once, but once I finally tried it, I will never turn back. You will get the most out of your cakes and you don't have to worry about which way to birth them.

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