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Offlinegreenlight
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URGENT question about substrate.
    #689571 - 06/20/02 04:47 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I am using the max.fruiting formula of 6ccs water, 1/4cup BRF, 1/2cup vermiculite...


It seems that when I add these quantities together, I get enough substrate mix for TWO jars....Is this right??


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OfflineTrippingBillies
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Re: URGENT question about substrate. [Re: greenlight]
    #689591 - 06/20/02 05:03 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Hey one jar contains 1/4 cup water, 1/4 cup brown rice, 1/2 cup vermiculite. Spoon the substrate into the jar and then slam it down on the table or counter a couple times. After doing this several times all the formula should fit into the jar and leave about 1/2-1/4 inch of space for the dry vermiculite which need not be measured. Mix each jars formula seperately to keep measurements and distribution of ingredients even.


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Re: URGENT question about substrate. [Re: TrippingBillies]
    #689786 - 06/20/02 07:32 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

>Mix each jars formula seperately to keep measurements and distribution of ingredients even.

Bullshit. It?s nuch better if you mix the whole batch at once.
Check out http://www.geocities.com/kickme_to_mushrooms/pf/pf_en.htm .


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Re: URGENT question about substrate. [Re: TrippingBillies]
    #689824 - 06/20/02 07:46 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

That seems to be a pretty tightly packed substrate, I'd recommend leaving it loose providing the mycellium easier access to air, promoting quicker colonization.


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Re: URGENT question about substrate. [Re: Millencolin]
    #690580 - 06/20/02 03:06 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Ok, now I'm not a pro like some people on this site, but I've had a lot of problems when packing the substrate down. I did a test with 8 jars, 4 packed tightly and another 4 loosely loaded. The packed ones didn't even colonize at all, they just molded after about 2 weeks. Just a personal observation, but I would suggest spooning the substrate into the jars, then just lightly tapping it down.

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Re: URGENT question about substrate. [Re: Millencolin]
    #694497 - 06/22/02 04:51 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah, I couldn't get all of what he said into each jar...If I tried to, I would have had to pack it down, which I didn't want to do (and didn't end up doing..)


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Re: URGENT question about substrate. [Re: Anno]
    #694861 - 06/22/02 07:30 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Hey there,

Anno, I read the tek on the link you posted and the data about the mixing rates and multiples thereof is good common sense information. I am a little confused about the recommended temperatures of the environment during the colonization process. That tek recommended 70-80F for the colonization temperature range. I have read from 70F to 86F (21.1C to 30C). Some of the vendors list the colonization temperatures in the 82-86F range...is there that much difference in the mycelium development within the jars during colonization at 77F than say 84F? Let the voice of experience speak here please since when it comes to this I have absolutely no real experience dealing with this specific issue. This is sort of like the colonize in the light or dark question...there seems to some variability in the data available to those of us doing "research"....

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Re: URGENT question about substrate. [Re: KingBolete]
    #694971 - 06/22/02 08:08 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I'd stick to temps in the low 80s over temps in the 70s from my experience. I even recently did a control test where room temp is in generally in the 70s and inncubator around 82-84F. Inccubator colonized fast while the room temp was VERY slow...

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Re: URGENT question about substrate. [Re: psyconaut]
    #695662 - 06/23/02 07:26 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Hey there,

That sounds like the kind of data I am looking for...my results have been in a space where it varies from 78-86F and it is rather dry. Things seem to be doing well in that environment and I did not have to build a chamber....but I will in the winter and have to come in to fruit I would think. Ever put a jar in the fridge overnite or a few hours to cold shock it to help pinning and fruiting?

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