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OfflineLearyfanS
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Are there LSD manufacturers outside the US?
    #687982 - 06/19/02 08:56 AM (21 years, 8 months ago)

How come all of the LSD manufaturers are in the United States??

Why wouldn't they set up shop in a more tolorant country such as Holland?

Seems you could get way more done if you're away from the facist US DEA.




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Re: Are there LSD manufacturers outside the US? [Re: Learyfan]
    #688003 - 06/19/02 09:10 AM (21 years, 8 months ago)

It probably is. People usually dont stand up and announce where they are cewken up illgeal substances. LSD is fairly easy to smuggle tho, well easier then other drugs.


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Re: Are there LSD manufacturers outside the US? [Re: Learyfan]
    #688089 - 06/19/02 10:07 AM (21 years, 8 months ago)

In reply to:

How come all of the LSD manufaturers are in the United States??




Who said they were!?


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Re: Are there LSD manufacturers outside the US? [Re: Learyfan]
    #688101 - 06/19/02 10:15 AM (21 years, 8 months ago)

I would think it would flow their? wouldn't you?


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Re: Are there LSD manufacturers outside the US? [Re: Learyfan]
    #688370 - 06/19/02 01:28 PM (21 years, 8 months ago)

The USA is the last place i'd go to brew LSD.
That's just me tho..

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Re: Are there LSD manufacturers outside the US? [Re: Liquid Squid]
    #689405 - 06/19/02 10:40 PM (21 years, 8 months ago)

trust me billy boy, people outside of the us of a know how to make drugs too... and they do as well... just like in a m e r i c aaaaaaa

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Re: Are there LSD manufacturers outside the US? [Re: Learyfan]
    #689445 - 06/19/02 11:51 PM (21 years, 8 months ago)

Dude - of course their friccin are .
Otherwise you have literally billions of humans relying on you americans for all there acidica - there are thousands of advanced laboratory's and many, many people with the know-how outside of the US .
Apparantly russia has some big stlye Labs Da Aceeed .

What the frags made you think it was ALL made in America - or were you referring solely to the acid consumed in America - in which case you would probably be closer to the mark .

Anyway, take no offense of my differing view point as I think you are a cool person .

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Re: Are there LSD manufacturers outside the US? [Re: Food]
    #689653 - 06/20/02 04:06 AM (21 years, 8 months ago)

I couldn't find the other site I was looking for, but this site from the dea says that most of the LSD in the US comes from the SF bay area.

On the other site they say that there are only about 6 manufaturers, and they are all located in the US.



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Re: Are there LSD manufacturers outside the US? [Re: Learyfan]
    #689821 - 06/20/02 05:46 AM (21 years, 8 months ago)

if the dea new about 6 manufacturs of lsd they would be shutting em down. Who knows where they are making the stuff.

Would you be telling people where your maken lsd?


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Re: Are there LSD manufacturers outside the US? [Re: baraka]
    #689858 - 06/20/02 06:09 AM (21 years, 8 months ago)

Exactamundo baraka old boy!


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Re: Are there LSD manufacturers outside the US? [Re: baraka]
    #689950 - 06/20/02 07:19 AM (21 years, 8 months ago)

Of course they don't know, but I think they can tell where the different kinds of acid are being manufactured by testing each one or something.



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Re: Are there LSD manufacturers outside the US? [Re: Learyfan]
    #690057 - 06/20/02 08:13 AM (21 years, 8 months ago)

Agent Box Smulder - This sheet of LSD-25 we have discovered contains micro amounts of orange paint not visible to the naked eye. This particular orange paint sir is unique in fact as it's the exact color used for the golden gate bridge sir. We conclude that this batch of *cough* hmm, ACID was manufactured on a windy day in san fransisco probably chinatown, the lab boys think chinatown due to the microwhiff of spring rolls and king prawn balls".

Senior agent Skinhead - "Well done Smulder, I think we should sit on this information for a while though.

Agent Smulder - "why sir?"

Senior agent Skinhead - "Because Smulder, it's gonna take us at least a month to eat our way through this batch, and given that time these fuckin amaturs might have got there act together and produce some shit hot ALD- 52! Where the fucks reefer man anyway... And find me agent skullfuck......!"


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Re: Are there LSD manufacturers outside the US? [Re: Roger_irrelevant]
    #690757 - 06/20/02 02:37 PM (21 years, 8 months ago)

lol


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Re: Are there LSD manufacturers outside the US? [Re: Learyfan]
    #691460 - 06/20/02 07:22 PM (21 years, 8 months ago)

Well I'm outside the US and making acid!

Seriously, holland may be tolerant of posession of small quantities of drugs, but I doubt they'd be very friendly towards an acid lab. Although, most MDMA is from Holland.

The thing about lsd manufacture is that it doesn't have to be a big permanent setup. You can make a hundred thousand doses worth and be done with the actual lab work. Then "packaging and distribution" can be done in several places and over some period of time. With other drugs you normally wouldn't make kilos of the stuff in one sitting.

Another thing is that there are probably only a handful of acid operations going on at any one time. They may happen to be mostly in the US. Thats enough to saturate the supply end of the market. I bet the folks at Berkely don't ever have any trouble finding any.

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Re: Are there LSD manufacturers outside the US? [Re: dirk gently]
    #691647 - 06/20/02 11:08 PM (21 years, 8 months ago)

Load of shite! All the MDMA in Aussie is either made in Australia, Manchester (in the old rave days) or Israel.
Acid is made all over the world and i resent the statement and i have read that on the site. Someone was busted about a year ago in Australia with a lab full of ergot!


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Re: Are there LSD manufacturers outside the US? [Re: dirk gently]
    #691727 - 06/21/02 02:32 AM (21 years, 8 months ago)

You make it? How, with erogotamine tartrate or what?

I met a guy recently who claimed that he had once made a whole big jug of LSD. The guys a complete idiot, so if he wasn't lying I have no idea how he did it.



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Re: Are there LSD manufacturers outside the US? [Re: Learyfan]
    #691780 - 06/21/02 03:44 AM (21 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: Are there LSD manufacturers outside the US? [Re: ralphster44]
    #691882 - 06/21/02 05:09 AM (21 years, 8 months ago)

Starting a new hobby Ralph?

I'll take two books please

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Re: Are there LSD manufacturers outside the US? [Re: ralphster44]
    #691941 - 06/21/02 05:48 AM (21 years, 8 months ago)

Rolph 2 hits for me please also.


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Re: Are there LSD manufacturers outside the US? [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #692131 - 06/21/02 07:49 AM (21 years, 8 months ago)

That is to say most mdma in the US is produced in holland. Not all, but a lot. Don't have a source for that at the momemnt. And I'm sure theres a couple aussie lsd chemists too. I just doubt there are that many worldwide at any one time in operation. There can be certain trades that are predominantly localized to one region. Maybe acid is like that. Its not easy enough for anybody to make it ya know.

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Re: Are there LSD manufacturers outside the US? [Re: dirk gently]
    #692541 - 06/21/02 11:36 AM (21 years, 8 months ago)

Go to Russia. You will find a lot of X and acid there. Ive just remember that I still got friends there, heh. I need to go there pick some up there and bring some acid vials back to US, heh.


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Re: Are there LSD manufacturers outside the US? [Re: Learyfan]
    #695734 - 06/23/02 06:55 AM (21 years, 8 months ago)

if most of the mdma comes from outside the country., im guessing a chemist who could synthesize mdma could also synthesize lsd-25


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Re: Are there LSD manufacturers outside the US? [Re: CaliChronic]
    #695848 - 06/23/02 08:22 AM (21 years, 8 months ago)

I'd switch those around
You need much higher know how of chemistry to make LSD

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Re: Are there LSD manufacturers outside the US? [Re: Liquid Squid]
    #695902 - 06/23/02 08:59 AM (21 years, 8 months ago)

true, it probably takes more knowlege to synthesize lsd, but what i meant was with both, you need to be a trained or very experienced chemist, with almost professional laboratory eqipment. check out tihkal on mdma synthesis, its not easy by any means (you probably wont be able to understand 3/4 of it)


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Re: Are there LSD manufacturers outside the US? [Re: CaliChronic]
    #696018 - 06/23/02 09:54 AM (21 years, 8 months ago)

LoL, thanks for the tip. I've seen the synth
Nothing that a chem student shouldn't be able to pulloff, with some *overtime* use of the school lab LoL
The precursors are another thing, but alot easier to come by then LSD's precursors

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Re: Are there LSD manufacturers outside the US? [Re: Liquid Squid]
    #696802 - 06/23/02 05:26 PM (21 years, 8 months ago)

this is making me want to take a few cem classes this year at the community collage.


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Re: Are there LSD manufacturers outside the US? [Re: MushroomBoy123]
    #697277 - 06/23/02 09:39 PM (21 years, 8 months ago)

drugs are made everywhere... just like people who like to take drugs are everywhere... after all we're only human ;]

right?

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Re: Are there LSD manufacturers outside the US? [Re: Learyfan]
    #700946 - 06/25/02 02:46 PM (21 years, 8 months ago)

This hippy dude I used to work with was telling me the best acid from the 70s came out of the Soviet Union.

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Re: Are there LSD manufacturers outside the US? [Re: stealth]
    #732769 - 07/09/02 12:51 AM (21 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah, there is bound to be acid manufacturers outside the US, maybe even here in NZ. I know we have a lot of speed labs here, cause of our speed 'epedemic', but thats probably cause speed is piss easy to make and gangs can make money, or so the media angles it anyway.
But most of the acid I have come across in large quantities here has been imported from the states, and I have seen vials of liquid acid which were 500 doses and that was definatley from the states.
On a sidenote, does anyone know the origin of the Salvador Dali tabs? (I know that more than one lab can use the same paper, but still) They are the main type goin round in my area at the moment, and I will say they are very nice!
I would ask but the guy I coulda asked is in jail now....bummer....

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Re: Are there LSD manufacturers outside the US? [Re: Peace_Patrol]
    #732781 - 07/09/02 01:39 AM (21 years, 8 months ago)

I don't think there are any labs here in NZ. It's a possibility, but highly unlikely. The last lot of acid I found was I think Circles of Life, yellow blotter with blue circles and patterns on them. No idea where it came from.

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Re: Are there LSD manufacturers outside the US? [Re: Peace_Patrol]
    #732782 - 07/09/02 01:41 AM (21 years, 8 months ago)

There were some Dali's making the rounds here a few months back...pretty decent trips, got the old "they're double-sided" story from one guy

I always assumed most of the acid in NZ came from Europe, maybe via Oz...there hasn't been a shortage of it here (to my knowledge) like the yank's have been complaining of so that may be why...I really doubt there are any labs here tho. Why import a kilo of ergotamine tartrate on the off-chance you can pull off the synth when you could import a few sheets of blotter with minimal chance of being detected? If there was a lab here, we'd be swimming in acid considering the low population...

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Re: Are there LSD manufacturers outside the US? [Re: Pynchon]
    #732818 - 07/09/02 02:57 AM (21 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah, thats true, there may not be a COMMERCIAL lab in NZ but there are plenty of drug nerds out there makin little concoctions of everything we could imagine...or attempting to....recently a guy was busted in my area for importation, manufacturing and distribution of escstacy and MDA, and manufacture of heroin, and I think some other shit too. And this was in St.Arnaud which is just a verrrrrry small villiage in the mountains about an hour or so from nelson. Another guy this time in the city was busted for having all the precursors for heroin manufacture...so there is bound to be more people like that, though LSD is an entirely different ball game...one interesting thing I heard of a while ago while at an outdoor dance party was people selling mescaline extractions....didn't try any though..
Sheepish...I tried some of that acid that was yellow with blue 'spirograph' type patterns, it was OK but not as good as the Dali's, but with the yellow ones I was told from several people they are called 'Mandala's' but then again I spose with something like that they can just pick and choose a cool name, whereas with the Dali's its pretty obvious cause the sheets are Dali paintings...

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Re: Are there LSD manufacturers outside the US? [Re: Peace_Patrol]
    #732843 - 07/09/02 03:30 AM (21 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah, I always wondered about the feasibility of small-scale MDxx labs here...and it's certainly true that NZ chemists have proven "innovative" in the past -- where else could some bored junky chemist come up with a process for making dope from the innocent panadeine?

I still doubt the possibility of an LSD lab tho -- you said yourself that some guy got busted with heroin precursors and that's just two chemicals and a stove!

That mescaline extraction thing is really intrigueing...was it just like a boiled-down pedro tar or something more refined?

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Re: Are there LSD manufacturers outside the US? [Re: Pynchon]
    #734080 - 07/09/02 01:33 PM (21 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah, I was also at first suspecting the usual foul tasting, thick tarry mescal gloop that most people are used to with cactus, but I took a look anyway and when I saw the doses I was surprised to see clear crystals.
There are some very LARGE San Pedro gardens in my area, they have even been featured in a few garden magazines, even though the 'real' purpose of them is pretty obvious....there was this one guy who also grew agaves to make tequila and he said he was going to call it 'mescal' instead of tequila hehehe.
But yeah the mescaline crystals were interesting, they were asking $30 a dose, which I suppose is kind of steep but a friend of mine got one for $20 cause she knew the guy, and she said it was very, very nice, said that it was the best trip of her life (now she's always nagging me to get some cactus!) I have no idea how they did the extraction, but I have seen a few methods on the net like at lycaeum, maybe they used on of these.

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Re: Are there LSD manufacturers outside the US? [Re: Peace_Patrol]
    #735713 - 07/10/02 05:33 AM (21 years, 8 months ago)

If you saw mescaline crystals at any price I'm pathetically envious.

>>>said that it was the best trip of her life (now she's always nagging me to get some cactus!)

Mescaline probably provided me with my most worthwhile trip too. Cactus is worth the patience.

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Re: Are there LSD manufacturers outside the US? [Re: Learyfan]
    #735948 - 07/10/02 07:33 AM (21 years, 8 months ago)

I would imagine it would be easier in a non-western country. The authorities have less interest in precursors and the police and Judges are easier to bribe

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