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Re: Busted! [Re: Mead]
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the loph's in the UK whats the legal status on em?


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Re: Busted! [Re: cheesie]
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I'm 99% sure they're legal..


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Re: Busted! [Re: Dr. uarewotueat]
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sorry to hear about this man best of luck in your legal affairs


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Re: Busted! [Re: 2859558484]
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attic grows can be spotted form the air now a days


Does that actually happen? I've heard it from dozens of people, but always disregarded it as paranoia, since running extremely powerful heat seeking equipment from helicopters doesn't seem like a financially efficient way to stop people growing plants.


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Re: Busted! [Re: EllisDSox]
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shit, hopefully you wont be gone too long man!  that sucks hardcore, you have a narc living around you, so you should probably move when this is all done.  Best of luck, and don't let them take away your spirit :wink:


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Re: Busted! [Re: EllisDSox]
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Hope things go better for you soon, man.

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Does that actually happen? I've heard it from dozens of people, but always disregarded it as paranoia, since running extremely powerful heat seeking equipment from helicopters doesn't seem like a financially efficient way to stop people growing plants.


I don't mean to sound like a dick, but if they were interested in efficiency, they wouldn't be prosecuting for pot in the first place.

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Re: Busted! [Re: AlephOne]
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AlephOne said:
Hope things go better for you soon, man.

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Does that actually happen? I've heard it from dozens of people, but always disregarded it as paranoia, since running extremely powerful heat seeking equipment from helicopters doesn't seem like a financially efficient way to stop people growing plants.


I don't mean to sound like a dick, but if they were interested in efficiency, they wouldn't be prosecuting for pot in the first place.


so true, and so sad :frown:

They could be searching for kidnapped children or something useful, yet they go looking for a drug that is less dangerous than what is sold to the millions on pretty much every corner (alcohol)


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Re: Busted! [Re: AgingHippy]
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from what i hear a helicoptor or plane can see an attic grow stick out like a sore thumb...extremely easily.
they will in the evening fly over an area and check for massive heat signitures with thermal camera's.....it is how the bust large scale grows.Especially when the whole house is a grow room.
You might as well put a sign up saying i grow MJ here.
Apparently the heat camera is so good it can show the setup very well as the heat coming off the plants and equipment sillouttes everything.
It is not paranoia it actually happens.


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Re: Busted! [Re: cheesie]
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I hope that you come back soon bro.


I need a UK supplier of Sally's now...  :frown:


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Re: Busted! [Re: cheesie]
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my question is who did he tell here. seems he did a fair bit of trades, and perhaps his weed grow was common knowledge. i wuld look into all angles man. that fuckin blows. come back when you can.


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Re: Busted! [Re: cheesie]
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urwotueat - So sorry man, hope you get your cacti back unharmed and, more importantly, you won't have to face any jail time. Keep your spirits up.

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the loph's in the UK whats the legal status on em?



Lophophora Williamsi, and indeed other species are legal in the UK. Though if there are any in stages of preparation or extraction that is illegal. I don't know whether cops could try to make the case that cut lophophora tops (for grafting/rooting) are being prepared for consumption, there's no precedent for it I'm aware of but it's a possibility.

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Re: Busted! [Re: BlueDruid]
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Not knowing the circumstances or specifics I think that the helicopter heat seekers is a possibility. I'm in the same general rough area and know that there have been some going about, looking for 'cannabis factories' rather than small scale grow ops. That said the most likely cause of a bust is always that someone told something or neighbours spotted/smelt something.

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Re: Busted! [Re: cheesie]
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cheesie said:
Apparently the heat camera is so good it can show the setup very well as the heat coming off the plants and equipment sillouttes everything.


That's a little extreme. I'm not sure I believe that.


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Re: Busted! [Re: in_sherman]
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they also have cameras that can detect outdoor grows. with reflecting light and shit. but i too think its probably a rat. i hate rats.


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Re: Busted! [Re: kadakuda]
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kadakuda said:
i hate rats.



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Re: Busted! [Re: Nalim]
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God, the cops! leave us alone you losers! :mad:


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Re: Busted! [Re: Dr. uarewotueat]
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Sorry to hear that dude it sucks :frown:


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Re: Busted! [Re: cheesie]
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cheesie said:
from what i hear a helicoptor or plane can see an attic grow stick out like a sore thumb...extremely easily.
they will in the evening fly over an area and check for massive heat signitures with thermal camera's.....it is how the bust large scale grows.Especially when the whole house is a grow room.
You might as well put a sign up saying i grow MJ here.
Apparently the heat camera is so good it can show the setup very well as the heat coming off the plants and equipment sillouttes everything.
It is not paranoia it actually happens.






Considering that weed grows best in the 20c to 30c range that just happens to be the temp that humans like to live at, there is no noticeable heat signature to a indoor grow.

Your idea that thermal imaging cameras can see thru roofs and pick out lights and plants is just stupid.

Please refrain from perpetuating garbage.

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Heat coming off plants.

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Re: Busted! [Re: Hanky]
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no but a 1000W bulb can get pretty fuckign hot. that is easily detected by helicopters. especially in factory type grows where there may be mnay many lights in a small area (compared to a normal dark and dingy factory)


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Re: Busted! [Re: Hanky]
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I do know that these cameras are used, but I doubt it would be enough to secure a warrant (at least in the US). Heat (infrared) cameras are primarily used in the US to detect outdoor patches. Usually the plants are pulled and thats the end of it unless you left a trail or foot prints (use duct tape on the soles of your shoes). Staggering, tying, and planting in crops such as corn help to camoflage heat signatures. If you have enough HP sodium lamps, it could be of concern, but you would have to have several. I would think that the electric company would be more of a threat if this were the case.


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