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Re: Was 9/11 a inside job? [Re: Rahie]
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Rahie said:
Yeah guys Bin Laden did it from a cave in Afghanistan.



:flowstone:

Talk about a straw man.

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Re: Was 9/11 a inside job? [Re: Madtowntripper]
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Ha, well who knows? Its all "Circumstansial Evidence" Like with all that thermite shit from the buildings etc.etc.

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Re: Was 9/11 a inside job? [Re: Madtowntripper]
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i see the stage the puppets and the audience...
:septemberlol:

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Re: Was 9/11 a inside job? [Re: Ego Death]
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Definitely was an inside job.


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"If the words 'life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness' don't include the right to experiment
with your own consciousness, then the Declaration of Independence isn't worth the hemp
it was written on."
-Terence McKenna
Marijuana Myths Debunked

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Re: Was 9/11 a inside job? [Re: Redstorm]
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What about the 3rd plane hitting the pentagon?

That was the most clearly staged and covered up when they realized it was a bit to unbelievable.

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Re: Was 9/11 a inside job? [Re: Ego Death]
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9/11 was an inside job. :rolleyes: :stonedjerk:

get a grip people

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Re: Was 9/11 a inside job? [Re: Ego Death]
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Inside job? Probably not. Did they have something to do with it? Of course.

If anyone is seriously interested in the topic, here is some very useful (but very heavy) reading.

http://nymag.com/news/features/16464/index.html

For the record, I got that link from my favorite columnist, so I should give Morford some credit.
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2006/03/29/notes032906.DTL&hw=morford&sn=081&sc=916




Anyone on shroomery might be interested in this article too.
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2006/08/04/notes080406.DTL&hw=morford&sn=044&sc=888

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Re: Was 9/11 a inside job? [Re: MushmanTheManic]
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Wait a sec... you think the Irish planted bombs in the WTC? :lol: You're fucked in the head, man.

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Re: Was 9/11 a inside job? [Re: Madtowntripper]
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Madtowntripper said:
I cant believe people believe this garbage.

The 9/11/Inside Job theory is right up there with Jesus Rising from the Dead in my book of fairy-tales that never happened.

But, just like any other religion, it has its share of rabid followers whom you will never convince otherwise.  Because they have "evidence."  i.e. the bible, grainy video-tape footage, etc etc.



:congrats:


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The story goes, or the way that I was told
There was a king that always felt too high and then he fell too low
And so he called all the wise men to the hall
And begged them for a gift to end the rises and the falls
But here’s the thing, they came back with a ring
It was simple and was plainly unbefitting of a king
Engraved in black, it had no front or back
But there were words around the band that said
Just know: This Too Shall Pass


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Re: Was 9/11 a inside job? [Re: DNKYD]
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Yessir. You have to watch out for those drunk Catholic bastards.

An Irish man asked his wife to make him a hot fudge sundae. She went to the kitchen and returned 20 minutes later with a plate of scrambled eggs.

He flew into a rage and said "Wheres the bacon?, I asked for Bacon!"

The evidence is simply overwhelming.

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Re: Was 9/11 a inside job? [Re: Ego Death]
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Ego Death said:
What about the 3rd plane hitting the pentagon?

That was the most clearly staged and covered up when they realized it was a bit to unbelievable.



Yea, why didn't the SAMs go off?


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Re: Was 9/11 a inside job? [Re: Madtowntripper]
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Madtowntripper said:
I cant believe people believe this garbage.

The 9/11/Inside Job theory is right up there with Jesus Rising from the Dead in my book of fairy-tales that never happened.

But, just like any other religion, it has its share of rabid followers whom you will never convince otherwise. Because they have "evidence." i.e. the bible, grainy video-tape footage, etc etc.



You are my personal hero for the day!

Everyone's running around pointing fingers at the government saying they've orchestrated every last thing down to the ingredients in Corn Pops.

Not so.

I think anyone that's in to this conspiracy theory crap (or at least most often times crap) needs to read up on the principle of Occam's razor. Occam's razor states, "entities should not be multiplied beyond necessity." Simply put, all things being equal, the simplest solution tends to be the best one.

Think about it... (or don't, because that's what the government wants you to do!)


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"Something else I'm getting tired of in this country is all this stupid talk I have to listen to about children. That's all you hear about anymore, children: 'Help the children, save the children, protect the children.' You know what I say? Fuck the children!"

-George Carlin

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Re: Was 9/11 a inside job? [Re: ShroomGoddess]
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Yeah the official story is pretty simple.

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Re: Was 9/11 a inside job? [Re: ShroomGoddess]
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We give these people trillions of dollars a year to spend to make our lives a little better. People are still starving, we're still buying bombs, and they're still trying to tell us that they know better than us what we should put in our bodies. Our government is full of idiots, the kind of idiots who couldn't find their way out of a paper bag with a map, much less orchestrate some huge elaborate cover-up surrounding events that would require dozens if not hundreds of people to plan, prepare for and initiate. Use your heads guys.


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The story goes, or the way that I was told
There was a king that always felt too high and then he fell too low
And so he called all the wise men to the hall
And begged them for a gift to end the rises and the falls
But here’s the thing, they came back with a ring
It was simple and was plainly unbefitting of a king
Engraved in black, it had no front or back
But there were words around the band that said
Just know: This Too Shall Pass


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Re: Was 9/11 a inside job? [Re: NobodyCares]
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9/11: Ten Smoking Guns
1) Why didn't NORAD fulfil its standard operating procedure and intercept the planes? Were NORAD intentionally confused by the wargames taking place on the morning of 9/11 or were they ordered to stand down?

Flight 77 was known by NORAD to have been hijacked by 8:50am. Yet it is a full 48 minutes until any fighters are scrambled, as two leave Langley AFB just two minutes before Flight 77 hits the Pentagon at 9:40am.

2) What is the meaning behind the following quote attributed to Dick Cheney which came to light during the 9/11 Commission hearings. The passage is taken from testimony given by Secretary of Transportation Norman Mineta.

During the time that the airplane was coming in to the Pentagon, there was a young man who would come in and say to the Vice President, "The plane is 50 miles out." "The plane is 30 miles out." And when it got down to "the plane is 10 miles out," the young man also said to the Vice President, "Do the orders still stand?" And the Vice President turned and whipped his neck around and said, "Of course the orders still stand. Have you heard anything to the contrary?"

As the plane was not shot down are we to take it that the orders were to let the plane find its target?

3) What was the cause of the collapse of WTC Building 7? The building wasn't hit by a plane and yet it collapsed in the same manner as the twin towers. Why hasn't Larry Silverstein offered a public explanation as to the meaning behind his comments on a September 2002 PBC documentary, America Rebuilds, where he admits the decision was made to "pull" the building. Pulling a building is the industry term for controlled demolition. The official FEMA report listed fire damage as the reason for the building's collapse, even though photos taken before the collapse indicate minimal fires.

How can the collapse of the building and also the twin towers be justified in light of numerous examples of high story buildings which burned for hours and even days without collapsing, such as the recent Windsor Building fire in Madrid?

4) How did Rudolph Giuliani know that the south tower was about to collapse? Giuliani told ABC's Peter Jennings, "We were operating out of there when we were told that the World Trade Center was gonna collapse."

The World Trade Center was the first steel building to collapse from fire damage in history.

Who told Giuliani the building was going to collapse and how did they know?

5) In the days following September 11th, the FBI released a list of the 19 hijackers.

At least four of these hijackers are still alive. Saudi Arabian pilot Waleed Al Shehri ) was one of five men that the FBI said had deliberately crashed American Airlines flight 11 into the World Trade Centre on 11 September.

He told journalists there that he had nothing to do with the attacks on New York and Washington, and had been in Morocco when they happened. He has contacted both the Saudi and American authorities, according to Saudi press reports.

Other so called 'suicide hijackers' who have come forward to protest their innocence (being alive is a good enough alibi) are Abdulaziz Al Omari , Saeed Alghamdi and Khalid Al Midhar.

How can we take claims of paper passports that miraculously escaped the impact of the plane and the gigantic fireballs and fluttered mostly unscathed down to the ground seriously? At least a third of the victims were never identified and yet a paper passport survives. Was this an attempt to frame the very individuals the FBI would later blame for the attack?

6) Who told a number of public officials not to fly into New York on the morning of 9/11 and why didn't the people on the targeted planes get the same warnings?

Mayor of San Francisco Willie Brown was set to fly into New York on the morning of September 11. However, he got a call from what he described as his 'airport security' late September 10th advising against flying due to a security threat.

Newsweek twice reported that top Pentagon officials had got a warning of the impending attack on September 10th, and cancelled their flights for the next day. This confirms that these officials knew both the locations of the imminent attack and the method of using jetliners as bombs.

7) From July 4th-14th 2001, Osama bin Laden was being treated for kidney infection at the American Hospital, Dubai, United Arab Emirates. There, on multiple occasions, he met with CIA station Chief Larry Mitchell. Bin Laden gave Mitchell 'precise information' regarding 'an imminent attack' on the US. Bin Laden also met with numerous members of his family, who left the US by
chartered flights after September 11th with the full blessings of the US government.

A 2000 Clinton presidential executive order was still in effect and mandated that bin Laden should have been killed on the spot. Bin Laden was allowed to leave of his own free will.

8) A record number of 'put' options, speculation that the stock of a company will fall, were placed on American and United Airlines in the days preceding September 11th. This despite a September 10th Reuters report stating 'airline stocks set to fly.'

9) Between September 6 and 7, the Chicago Board Options Exchange saw purchases of 4,744 put options on United Airlines, but only 396 call options. On September 10, 4,516 put options on American Airlines were bought on the Chicago exchange, compared to only 748 calls.

The investigation as to which criminals benefited from advance knowledge of the terrorist attack led straight to Alex Brown/Deutsche Bank - chaired up until 1997 by executive director of the CIA, Buzzy Krongard.

Why wasn't Krongard taken in for questioning by the FBI and who else was involved in this insider trading?

10) Pakistan ISI Director General Mahmud Ahmad instructed Ahmad Umar Sheikh to hotwire $100,000 to the 9/11 lead hijacker, Mohammad Atta.

On September 11th, Ahmad was a guest of former clandestine CIA officer and CFR member Rep. Porter Goss and Skull and Bones/CFR member Senator Bob Graham. Since September 4th, he had met with top brass at the CIA, the Pentagon and the White House, including Colin Powell, Richard Armitage, Joseph Biden and George Tenet.

Condoleezza Rice lied in a May 16th 2002 press conference when she claimed ignorance of Ahmad's visit and the $100,000 transfer. Ahmad had
already resigned from the ISI and the FBI had confirmed the circumstances behind this. Rice stated "I have not seen that report, and he was certainly not meeting with me."

What was the money man behind the terrorists doing in the halls of the US government before, during and after 9/11?

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Re: Was 9/11 a inside job? [Re: Rahie]
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And in the beginning the world was void and formless... you have no way of proving any of that, give me a source at least.


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The story goes, or the way that I was told
There was a king that always felt too high and then he fell too low
And so he called all the wise men to the hall
And begged them for a gift to end the rises and the falls
But here’s the thing, they came back with a ring
It was simple and was plainly unbefitting of a king
Engraved in black, it had no front or back
But there were words around the band that said
Just know: This Too Shall Pass


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Re: Was 9/11 a inside job? [Re: NobodyCares]
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Since I posted that how about you disprove what I posted, so then you can have glory.
The official 9/11 story is the biggest conspiracy theory of them all.

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Re: Was 9/11 a inside job? [Re: Rahie]
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Okay, I'll disprove that because it's pretty easy to do: you have no way of proving that any of those 10 "smoking guns" actually occurred, you have hearsay at best. Not only do you not cite your source, which I'd be willing to wager is shaky at best, you provide nothing but blind assertions.

Disprove the following statement:
I'm wearing a green shirt right now.

You can't, because you have nothing but someone else's word to go on. Until you can show me a recording of Chaney saying that the orders still stand, you have no argument. Until you have something concrete to argue with, I refute your arguments on the ground that you aren't arguing at all, you're asserting.


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The story goes, or the way that I was told
There was a king that always felt too high and then he fell too low
And so he called all the wise men to the hall
And begged them for a gift to end the rises and the falls
But here’s the thing, they came back with a ring
It was simple and was plainly unbefitting of a king
Engraved in black, it had no front or back
But there were words around the band that said
Just know: This Too Shall Pass


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Re: Was 9/11 a inside job? [Re: NobodyCares]
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You're argument is hearsay from the government, so no way to prove it.

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Re: Was 9/11 a inside job? [Re: Rahie]
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Hearsay from the government? I watched the planes hit the fucking towers dude, how is that hearsay?


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The story goes, or the way that I was told
There was a king that always felt too high and then he fell too low
And so he called all the wise men to the hall
And begged them for a gift to end the rises and the falls
But here’s the thing, they came back with a ring
It was simple and was plainly unbefitting of a king
Engraved in black, it had no front or back
But there were words around the band that said
Just know: This Too Shall Pass


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