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Re: Waxy Caps! [Re: CureCat]
    #6545028 - 02/08/07 06:21 PM (17 years, 18 days ago)

According to the powers that be in the UK, the Parrot Wax Cap (Hygrocybe psittacina) is classed as a mind bending class A narcotic :crazy:



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Re: Waxy Caps! [Re: Amatoxin]
    #6545120 - 02/08/07 06:49 PM (17 years, 18 days ago)

rofl.


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Re: Waxy Caps! [Re: Amatoxin]
    #6545198 - 02/08/07 07:08 PM (17 years, 18 days ago)

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Amatoxin said:
According to the powers that be in the UK, the Parrot Wax Cap (Hygrocybe psittacina) is classed as a mind bending class A narcotic :crazy:



Whaaaaat?!  There is no reference to this on wiki, rogersmushrooms, mushroomexpert, nor mykoweb.  What gives?


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Re: Waxy Caps! [Re: CureCat]
    #6545280 - 02/08/07 07:28 PM (17 years, 18 days ago)

Guidelines for field mycologists: the practical
interpretation of Section 21 of the Drugs Act 2005.

* If you knowingly collect a fungus listed in Appendix 1, e.g. Psilocybe
semilanceata or Hygrocybe psittacina, you potentially commit an
offence of possession. If field identification is possible then it is, of
course, unlikely that you would need to take the fungus home for
further identification.

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Re: Waxy Caps! [Re: CureCat]
    #6545359 - 02/08/07 07:44 PM (17 years, 18 days ago)



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Re: Waxy Caps! [Re: Amatoxin]
    #6545724 - 02/08/07 08:49 PM (17 years, 18 days ago)

Weird. I wonder if it says anything about the supposedly narcotic effects of some species of Lycoperdon and the purported hallucinogenic nature of the false chanterelle, Hygrophoropsis aurantiaca. I'll have to take a look, thanks for the link.


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Re: Waxy Caps! [Re: xmush]
    #6545736 - 02/08/07 08:52 PM (17 years, 18 days ago)

Heh, nothing about those two species, but lots of species that are certainly not active are on their list.


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Re: Waxy Caps! [Re: xmush]
    #6545915 - 02/08/07 09:33 PM (17 years, 18 days ago)

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Appendix 1.
Preliminary list of British Fungi reported to contain psilocybin/psilocin.
N.B. This list may be incomplete and should be treated as provisional.
Based on: Rätsch, A. (2005). The Encyclopedia of Psychoactive Plants.
Ethnopharmacology and it Applications. Park Street Press.

Confirmed

Conocybe cyanopus
Conocybe velutipes (= kuehneriana)
[Galerina steglichii hothouse alien]
Gymopilus junonius
Gymnopilus liquiritiae
[Gymnopilus purpuratus hothouse alien]
Inocybe corydalina
Inocybe haemacta
Panaeolina foenisecii
Panaeolus acuminatus
Panaeolus fimicola
Panaeolus olivaceus
Panaeolus papilionaceus
Panaeolus subbalteatus
Pluteus salicinus
Psilocybe coprophila
Psilocybe crobula
Psilocybe cyanescens
Psilocybe inquilina
Psilocybe merdaria
Psilocybe montana (incl. physaloides)
Psilocybe semilanceata
Psilocybe strictipes
[Psilocybe stuntzii hothouse alien]
Stropharia aeruginosa
Stropharia caerulea / cyanea
Stropharia percevalii
Stropharia pseudocyanea
Stropharia semiglobata
Stropharia squamosa
Stropharia thrausta

Possible but not confirmed

Hygrocybe psittacina
Mycena amicta
Panaeolus semiovatus
Pluteus cervinus
Pluteus ephebeus (= villosus/pearsonii)
Psathyrella candolleana
Rickenella fibula
Rickenella swartzii
Stropharia coronilla



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1 The phrase ‘magic mushroom’ refers to all those species listed in Appendix 1. This is a provisional
list prepared by the Royal Botanic Garden, Kew: it reflects current knowledge only and revisions will
need to be made as that knowledge expands.





Hahahaha, these folks at the Royal Botanical Garden need to do a lot of reading and/or examination.


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Re: Waxy Caps! [Re: CureCat]
    #6546210 - 02/08/07 11:03 PM (17 years, 18 days ago)

Nice. We have lots of those around here, in all different colors.


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Re: Waxy Caps! [Re: CureCat]
    #6546835 - 02/09/07 06:16 AM (17 years, 18 days ago)

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Pscyan - I'm not so sure that is a pellicle... A lot of species have a seperable layer on the cap, but it's more like skin, not an extra layer, as with a pellicle.  :ohwell:



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David Arora


Pellicle:
a viscid skin that usually peels easily




I don't exactly see how you are trying to say this is not a pellicle.  If it is not a pellicle what would you call it? And why is it different from a pellicle? And why has nobody mentioned this or given it a name other then pellicle.

Just like i have said before in the past, don't expect one species to have the same pellicle as another.  There is Psilocybe Cyanescens which has "sometimes sepreable pellicle" and then when you compare it to Psilocybe semilanceata it is a completely different look, texture, color, tensile strength, and elasticity. Just ask Aewaie, he has some good pics of liberty caps.

Here is the pellicle off a Cyanescens.


What is the difference?

As far as i am concerned it either has a "a viscid skin that usually peels easily" or it doesn't.  There is not half way or inbetween.


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Re: Waxy Caps! [Re: pscyanescens]
    #6546894 - 02/09/07 07:30 AM (17 years, 18 days ago)

those are :heart:some excellent pics!


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Re: Waxy Caps! [Re: Amatoxin]
    #6546965 - 02/09/07 08:21 AM (17 years, 18 days ago)

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Amatoxin said:
According to the powers that be in the UK, the Parrot Wax Cap (Hygrocybe psittacina) is classed as a mind bending class A narcotic :crazy:







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Re: Waxy Caps! [Re: CureCat]
    #6547272 - 02/09/07 11:27 AM (17 years, 18 days ago)

That is really a bad book curecat. I counted 13 species alone in the list of toxic species and they do not contain any psilocine/psilocybine whatsoever.

And all nine of the possible species identified do not contain those chemicals either.

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Re: Waxy Caps! [Re: mjshroomer]
    #6547454 - 02/09/07 12:36 PM (17 years, 18 days ago)

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mjshroomer said:
That is really a bad book curecat. I counted 13 species alone in the list of toxic species and they do not contain any psilocine/psilocybine whatsoever.

And all nine of the possible species identified do not contain those chemicals either.

mj



......mjshroomer, PLEASE, for gods sake, read the thread. Context is important. Did you even read my comment about the quotation?? I strongly suggest you back track, and realize that I was quoting from a pdf document regarding legality of mushroom species in the U.K.

Please save your comments for after you've read the thread.


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Re: Waxy Caps! [Re: mjshroomer]
    #6547483 - 02/09/07 12:50 PM (17 years, 18 days ago)

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That is really a bad book curecat. I counted 13 species alone in the list of toxic species and they do not contain any psilocine/psilocybine whatsoever.




That is what she wa saying mj -its a joke.  Read the WHOLE thing :smile:  Its pretty sad that they have that list like that...


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Re: Waxy Caps! [Re: CureCat]
    #6547632 - 02/09/07 01:49 PM (17 years, 17 days ago)

I did read the whole post Curecat and my comments remain the same.

I personally would not have given the the time of the day to even mention the stupidity of Christian Rästch concerning his identification of hallucinogenic fungi.

I have argue with him before about several mushrooms he believes are psychoactive and which of course were not.

He also carried over R.E.Schultes earlier mistakes involving the identification of Panaeolus sphinctrinus as a psychoactive species, basing his identifications on earlier written papers which were considered as false positives. I have a hand written note from Schultes which notes the Mazatecs never used this mushroom and that the early id by him, Reko, and Singer was incorrect.

Schultes wrote this as a Mexican species in his book, 'Plants of the gods.'

In a second reprint edition edited by Rätsch, He again left intact the text which is incorrect.

I have the Encyclopedia of psychoactive plants and he is wrong on a lot of data, however, the book is useful to some in the shroom field, but not accurate.

I bought the book from which that list was taken from and it disgusted me so bad that I actually went and asked for a refund from the store I purchased it from. They were taken back and really tried to get out of giving me a refund.

Then i had the store owner bring up my shroom site and They finally gave me my money back.

My comments were the fact that it is a bad list and I read what you posted completely before I made that comment.

mj

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Re: Waxy Caps! [Re: mjshroomer]
    #6547751 - 02/09/07 02:24 PM (17 years, 17 days ago)

But I was quoting from the pdf, not the book you are mentioning. So why would you say "That is a really bad book", with no reference to the book which you are speaking??

Yes, the innacuracies are tremendous, but please try to explain the relation between your comments and the thread. I'm no mind reader.


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