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Amatoxin
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Re: Waxy Caps! [Re: CureCat]
#6545028 - 02/08/07 06:21 PM (17 years, 18 days ago) |
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According to the powers that be in the UK, the Parrot Wax Cap (Hygrocybe psittacina) is classed as a mind bending class A narcotic 
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Re: Waxy Caps! [Re: Amatoxin]
#6545120 - 02/08/07 06:49 PM (17 years, 18 days ago) |
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rofl.
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Attn PWN hunters: If you should come across a bluing Psilocybe matching P. pellicolusa please smell it. If you detect a scent reminiscent of Anethole (anise) please preserve a specimen or two for study and please PM me.
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Re: Waxy Caps! [Re: Amatoxin]
#6545198 - 02/08/07 07:08 PM (17 years, 18 days ago) |
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Amatoxin said: According to the powers that be in the UK, the Parrot Wax Cap (Hygrocybe psittacina) is classed as a mind bending class A narcotic
Whaaaaat?! There is no reference to this on wiki, rogersmushrooms, mushroomexpert, nor mykoweb. What gives?
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Re: Waxy Caps! [Re: CureCat]
#6545280 - 02/08/07 07:28 PM (17 years, 18 days ago) |
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Guidelines for field mycologists: the practical interpretation of Section 21 of the Drugs Act 2005.
* If you knowingly collect a fungus listed in Appendix 1, e.g. Psilocybe semilanceata or Hygrocybe psittacina, you potentially commit an offence of possession. If field identification is possible then it is, of course, unlikely that you would need to take the fungus home for further identification.
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Re: Waxy Caps! [Re: CureCat]
#6545359 - 02/08/07 07:44 PM (17 years, 18 days ago) |
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Re: Waxy Caps! [Re: Amatoxin]
#6545724 - 02/08/07 08:49 PM (17 years, 18 days ago) |
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Weird. I wonder if it says anything about the supposedly narcotic effects of some species of Lycoperdon and the purported hallucinogenic nature of the false chanterelle, Hygrophoropsis aurantiaca. I'll have to take a look, thanks for the link.
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Re: Waxy Caps! [Re: xmush]
#6545736 - 02/08/07 08:52 PM (17 years, 18 days ago) |
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Heh, nothing about those two species, but lots of species that are certainly not active are on their list.
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Re: Waxy Caps! [Re: xmush]
#6545915 - 02/08/07 09:33 PM (17 years, 18 days ago) |
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Appendix 1. Preliminary list of British Fungi reported to contain psilocybin/psilocin. N.B. This list may be incomplete and should be treated as provisional. Based on: Rätsch, A. (2005). The Encyclopedia of Psychoactive Plants. Ethnopharmacology and it Applications. Park Street Press.
Confirmed
Conocybe cyanopus Conocybe velutipes (= kuehneriana) [Galerina steglichii hothouse alien] Gymopilus junonius Gymnopilus liquiritiae [Gymnopilus purpuratus hothouse alien] Inocybe corydalina Inocybe haemacta Panaeolina foenisecii Panaeolus acuminatus Panaeolus fimicola Panaeolus olivaceus Panaeolus papilionaceus Panaeolus subbalteatus Pluteus salicinus Psilocybe coprophila Psilocybe crobula Psilocybe cyanescens Psilocybe inquilina Psilocybe merdaria Psilocybe montana (incl. physaloides) Psilocybe semilanceata Psilocybe strictipes [Psilocybe stuntzii hothouse alien] Stropharia aeruginosa Stropharia caerulea / cyanea Stropharia percevalii Stropharia pseudocyanea Stropharia semiglobata Stropharia squamosa Stropharia thrausta
Possible but not confirmed
Hygrocybe psittacina Mycena amicta Panaeolus semiovatus Pluteus cervinus Pluteus ephebeus (= villosus/pearsonii) Psathyrella candolleana Rickenella fibula Rickenella swartzii Stropharia coronilla
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1 The phrase ‘magic mushroom’ refers to all those species listed in Appendix 1. This is a provisional list prepared by the Royal Botanic Garden, Kew: it reflects current knowledge only and revisions will need to be made as that knowledge expands.
Hahahaha, these folks at the Royal Botanical Garden need to do a lot of reading and/or examination.
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Re: Waxy Caps! [Re: CureCat]
#6546210 - 02/08/07 11:03 PM (17 years, 18 days ago) |
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Nice. We have lots of those around here, in all different colors.
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Re: Waxy Caps! [Re: CureCat]
#6546835 - 02/09/07 06:16 AM (17 years, 18 days ago) |
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CureCat said: Pscyan - I'm not so sure that is a pellicle... A lot of species have a seperable layer on the cap, but it's more like skin, not an extra layer, as with a pellicle.
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Pellicle: a viscid skin that usually peels easily
I don't exactly see how you are trying to say this is not a pellicle. If it is not a pellicle what would you call it? And why is it different from a pellicle? And why has nobody mentioned this or given it a name other then pellicle.
Just like i have said before in the past, don't expect one species to have the same pellicle as another. There is Psilocybe Cyanescens which has "sometimes sepreable pellicle" and then when you compare it to Psilocybe semilanceata it is a completely different look, texture, color, tensile strength, and elasticity. Just ask Aewaie, he has some good pics of liberty caps.
Here is the pellicle off a Cyanescens.

What is the difference?
As far as i am concerned it either has a "a viscid skin that usually peels easily" or it doesn't. There is not half way or inbetween.
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those are some excellent pics!
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Re: Waxy Caps! [Re: Amatoxin]
#6546965 - 02/09/07 08:21 AM (17 years, 18 days ago) |
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Amatoxin said: According to the powers that be in the UK, the Parrot Wax Cap (Hygrocybe psittacina) is classed as a mind bending class A narcotic 
lol
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Re: Waxy Caps! [Re: CureCat]
#6547272 - 02/09/07 11:27 AM (17 years, 18 days ago) |
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That is really a bad book curecat. I counted 13 species alone in the list of toxic species and they do not contain any psilocine/psilocybine whatsoever.
And all nine of the possible species identified do not contain those chemicals either.
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mjshroomer said: That is really a bad book curecat. I counted 13 species alone in the list of toxic species and they do not contain any psilocine/psilocybine whatsoever.
And all nine of the possible species identified do not contain those chemicals either.
mj
......mjshroomer, PLEASE, for gods sake, read the thread. Context is important. Did you even read my comment about the quotation?? I strongly suggest you back track, and realize that I was quoting from a pdf document regarding legality of mushroom species in the U.K.
Please save your comments for after you've read the thread.
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That is really a bad book curecat. I counted 13 species alone in the list of toxic species and they do not contain any psilocine/psilocybine whatsoever.
That is what she wa saying mj -its a joke. Read the WHOLE thing Its pretty sad that they have that list like that...
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Re: Waxy Caps! [Re: CureCat]
#6547632 - 02/09/07 01:49 PM (17 years, 17 days ago) |
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I did read the whole post Curecat and my comments remain the same.
I personally would not have given the the time of the day to even mention the stupidity of Christian Rästch concerning his identification of hallucinogenic fungi.
I have argue with him before about several mushrooms he believes are psychoactive and which of course were not.
He also carried over R.E.Schultes earlier mistakes involving the identification of Panaeolus sphinctrinus as a psychoactive species, basing his identifications on earlier written papers which were considered as false positives. I have a hand written note from Schultes which notes the Mazatecs never used this mushroom and that the early id by him, Reko, and Singer was incorrect.
Schultes wrote this as a Mexican species in his book, 'Plants of the gods.'
In a second reprint edition edited by Rätsch, He again left intact the text which is incorrect.
I have the Encyclopedia of psychoactive plants and he is wrong on a lot of data, however, the book is useful to some in the shroom field, but not accurate.
I bought the book from which that list was taken from and it disgusted me so bad that I actually went and asked for a refund from the store I purchased it from. They were taken back and really tried to get out of giving me a refund.
Then i had the store owner bring up my shroom site and They finally gave me my money back.
My comments were the fact that it is a bad list and I read what you posted completely before I made that comment.
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But I was quoting from the pdf, not the book you are mentioning. So why would you say "That is a really bad book", with no reference to the book which you are speaking??
Yes, the innacuracies are tremendous, but please try to explain the relation between your comments and the thread. I'm no mind reader.
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