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This is a pretty cool leaf. I feel like I took maybe 25mg of hydrocodone. I like the fact that it gives a opiate like high but it's just a leaf, not a government made synthetic pill. I can't see this staying legal much longer, it's just to good. I'm really enjoying this high. Anyone else discover the wonders of this magical leaf?


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Re: Kratom [Re: FractalDust]
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Government made? :wink:

Where could I get some Kratom?

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Re: Kratom [Re: Brugman]
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You must grow it yourself. It is not regulated. I am interested as well. If you find a seed vendor before me let me know.

Funny thing is, on erowid they describe it to be a stimulant and a depressant?!? Is this like pot? They claim the same about pot. I could see that, but only with different strains really.

http://www.erowid.org/plants/kratom/kratom.shtml
click on effects and count them all. Lots of pros and cons.


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Re: Kratom [Re: Brugman]
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Your favorite online vendor. I got mine from the guy who thinks he is a shaman. I can verify he has a good kratom product.


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Re: Kratom [Re: FractalDust]
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give me that "goverment made" (lol)  25mgs of hydrocodone anyday over kratom :smirk:


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Re: Kratom [Re: Infrared]
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Last time I took kratom I got really sick and barfed like 4 times I believe.it's crazy how it shrinks your pupils!


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Re: Kratom [Re: pscyanescens]
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pscyanescens said:
You must grow it yourself. It is not regulated. I am interested as well. If you find a seed vendor before me let me know.

Funny thing is, on erowid they describe it to be a stimulant and a depressant?!? Is this like pot? They claim the same about pot. I could see that, but only with different strains really.

http://www.erowid.org/plants/kratom/kratom.shtml
click on effects and count them all. Lots of pros and cons.


For most people, lower doses provide stimulant-like effects, while at higher doses the effects mirror that of an opiate. Strange but kinda cool


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Re: Kratom [Re: CUBErt]
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do you have reccomendations on the leaf or extract or resin or what guys?
thanks


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Re: Kratom [Re: CerebralFlower]
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I would imagine a simple alcohol extract would work fine. Just get a good filter, soak in alcohol, strain with filter paper, or coffee filter, or tea strainer, whatever you can to get the solid matter out. Then evaporate. This should extract the alkaloids from the leaf and plant matter into a oily concentrate.

The higher the grade of alcohol the better. 190 proof everclear is one way to go. But not all states sell this in the local liquor store.

Some of the most recomended is:
- potroleum ether
- ethenol
- methenol
- chlorophorm

All of thees chemicals should be researched before you obtain and do experiments. All of them are flamable, some highly flamambe, and some are toxic to inhale, such as chlorophorm.



I am not familiare with Kratom extrctions, but however extractions are genreally done in a similar fashion.


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