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Re: Book Club [Re: ]
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I was just thinking about re-starting this thread. Good work Newt! I have several books on the auction block. I'm too lazy to list them all again right now, but if anyone wants to do a swap, post your books here.

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Re: Book Club [Re: ]
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superpimp's book club idea is entirely different than mine. This makes for confusion. Both ideas can be a part of the Book Club. I demand a forum!

The old thead had a bunch of people that seemed interested. My idea, for any newcomers, was to have a member suggest a book that a link would be given to for Amazon. People could acquire a copy of the book any way they wanted, but if they bought it from Amazon, through the link, it would make money for the Shroomery.(10-15 percent of the sale price?) if people bought it through the link.

Then we would hold scheduled discussions on the boards and in chat.

A lot of people thought it would be a good idea to have a list of guidelines in helping people suggest a book. The person who selects the book would be chosen randomly.

The possible limitations I remember were:
-less than 20 years old
-non drug-related

I'm probably forgetting some. These limitations are up for discussion. Anyway, I think there were about ten interested people, which is pretty good considering this is the Suggestions forum.

Superpimp's book swap could also be included in the forum.

Anyway, I know that this is a group that generally prides itself on being literate so I think this could catch on and be good for the community.

If you are interested please post.


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“Nothing can now be believed which is seen in a newspaper. Truth itself becomes suspicious by being put into that polluted vehicle. The real extent of this state of misinformation is known only to those who are in situations to confront facts within their knowledge with the lies of the day.”  -- Thomas Jefferson

The greatest sin of mankind is ignorance.

The press takes [Trump] literally, but not seriously; his supporters take him seriously, but not literally. --Salena Zeto (9/23/16)

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Re: Book Club [Re: Senor_Doobie]
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I agree that this subject needs it's own forum. I also agree that both of our ideas could be used in that forum. You have the suggested books/Amazon thing for Shroomery profit and member discounts, and also the book swap, which would be in the same spirit of free trade as the spore exchange.
I don't necessarily like the idea of limitations on any type of books, at least not at first. You are severely limiting yourself if you ban books over 20 years old. Nobody here wants to read "Pride and Predjudice" or "Ethan Frome" but nobody here is going to reccommend those old ass books anyway. Banning drug books doesn't have to be done either, unless it turns out that the only books being traded are grow guides, THIKAL, and Uncle Festers LSD manufacturers guide. I doubt that will happen anyway, the people here are eclectic and well read enough to offer up more different types of books than that. If drug books do start to be a problem, that can always be addressed by the Mods later.

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Re: Book Club [Re: superpimp]
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Maybe we could do away with the idea of limiting the books and just have the randomly selected party suggest three books and then a vote could be taken on which one we would read.


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"America: Fuck yeah!" -- Alexthegreat

“Nothing can now be believed which is seen in a newspaper. Truth itself becomes suspicious by being put into that polluted vehicle. The real extent of this state of misinformation is known only to those who are in situations to confront facts within their knowledge with the lies of the day.”  -- Thomas Jefferson

The greatest sin of mankind is ignorance.

The press takes [Trump] literally, but not seriously; his supporters take him seriously, but not literally. --Salena Zeto (9/23/16)

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Re: Book Club [Re: Senor_Doobie]
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i like that idea

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Re: Book Club [Re: Senor_Doobie]
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I agree with it too.


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Re: Book Club [Re: Senor_Doobie]
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The possible limitations I remember were:
-less than 20 years old
-non drug-related


+non fiction only
and
adheres to some literary cannon....ie., no trashy fiction


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Re: Book Club [Re: PGF]
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nonfiction only? What are you smokin, crack?


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"America: Fuck yeah!" -- Alexthegreat

“Nothing can now be believed which is seen in a newspaper. Truth itself becomes suspicious by being put into that polluted vehicle. The real extent of this state of misinformation is known only to those who are in situations to confront facts within their knowledge with the lies of the day.”  -- Thomas Jefferson

The greatest sin of mankind is ignorance.

The press takes [Trump] literally, but not seriously; his supporters take him seriously, but not literally. --Salena Zeto (9/23/16)

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Re: Book Club [Re: Senor_Doobie]
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smokin your moms crack with my 9er


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Re: Book Club [Re: Senor_Doobie]
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What do you mean by canon?


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"America: Fuck yeah!" -- Alexthegreat

“Nothing can now be believed which is seen in a newspaper. Truth itself becomes suspicious by being put into that polluted vehicle. The real extent of this state of misinformation is known only to those who are in situations to confront facts within their knowledge with the lies of the day.”  -- Thomas Jefferson

The greatest sin of mankind is ignorance.

The press takes [Trump] literally, but not seriously; his supporters take him seriously, but not literally. --Salena Zeto (9/23/16)

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Re: Book Club [Re: Senor_Doobie]
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the literary cannon
is the body of works that makes up
our great literature.

It spans from before recorded time to
the present. Our cannon contains great literary agents
whose works have been able to use the literary constructs with a special insight that deems them worthy of belonging to the great collection of lwork that is the literary cannon.

err. you know...the cannon

pay some attention at that community college damn it


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Re: Book Club [Re: ]
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I read Notes From Underground, I didn't think it was too spectacular.
Newt, have you read Eye Scream by Henry Rollins? It's great.


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Edited by Newt (05/12/02 09:02 PM)

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Re: Trashy Fiction [Re: ]
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What's trashy about Last Exit or Tropic of Cancer?

To me trashy is all that airport-bookstore/Stephen King/John Grisham/title-always-starts-with-a-"the"-type shit; trash as in general rubbish, not necessarily sex and violence.

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Re: Trashy Fiction [Re: ]
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No. Trashy fiction would be Chicken Soup for the Dead Man's Soul and stupid books
like that.

How could you even suggest Burroughs as trashy fiction?!?

We staying within 20 years or what?


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Re: Trashy Fiction [Re: ]
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no. How about, mainstream POP fiction.

You know, that shit that sits at the top of the NY times best seller's list for weeks...

Stephen King, etc.


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Re: Trashy Fiction [Re: ]
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I was hoping we wouldn't have to rule out grotesque/offbeat...cuz well..I like that stuff sometimes...but hey
I've read Naked Lunch,American Psycho and Queer....maybe you'd like Exquisite Corpse Maybe that is too "grotesque" for suggestion though.
I think there are so many good works out there, but it's hard to find something EVERYONE will be interested in. And limiting it to the last 20 years isn't a good thing..IMHO We'd be eliminating some of the best stuff ever. Unless the point is to get something that maybe not alot of folks have already read, making it an adventerous type experience for the group. Then it make sense.
I read weird stuff anyway....maybe I should shut up now

~K~

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Re: Trashy Fiction [Re: ]
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I agree that pop fiction would suck for this. I think the best way to go would be to let everyone vote.


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"America: Fuck yeah!" -- Alexthegreat

“Nothing can now be believed which is seen in a newspaper. Truth itself becomes suspicious by being put into that polluted vehicle. The real extent of this state of misinformation is known only to those who are in situations to confront facts within their knowledge with the lies of the day.”  -- Thomas Jefferson

The greatest sin of mankind is ignorance.

The press takes [Trump] literally, but not seriously; his supporters take him seriously, but not literally. --Salena Zeto (9/23/16)

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Re: Trashy Fiction [Re: Senor_Doobie]
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you mean let the pop;ulace vote...the same populace who liked Forest Gump at the theatre?

I don't know man.


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Re: Trashy Fiction [Re: PGF]
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Yeah..but how many of those involved in this decision actually LIKED Forest Rump??
I know i didn't, so.....
well, I guess that really doesn't mean anything,huh?

~K~

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Re: Trashy Fiction [Re: ]
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PGE: i think you need to learn to like what 'you' like instead of just 'not' liking what is accepted in pop culture. just because its a best seller doesn't mean its bad fiction...

don't get me wrong; most of what is mainstream/socially acceptable these days is crap for the most part but there are always acceptions: Stephen King is one of those. read his "Dark Tower" series and then we'll talk.

as for older selections: Notes from the Underground wasn't bad, however, i like Crime and Punishment or Brothers Karamazov better.

C.S. Lewis maybe?

also what about poetry? anyone into that at all. anyone read any Robert Browning?


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Re: Trashy Fiction [Re: zepphead]
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yes, i agree. the dark tower series was/is amazing. king is an excellent writer. although, when his books are turned into movies, the result is complete shit.


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Re: Trashy Fiction [Re: zepphead]
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Stephen King is a book writing machine. I'm not denying his worth as a writer, but it's not something that I would want to read and analyze. This is because there are not as many layers to analyze in a King novel as say a Barthleme novel.

I've read King and am planning on reading the tower books. But, it'll be cheap, fun bathroom reading, you know?


I know I'll gt some shit for this, but Anne Rice's novels are the same. Fun to read, but no one is winning any Nobel prizes.

I like pop culture as much as the next idiot, but pop culture books are not that great for discussion in a serious book club, IMO.

I don't know. I guess it can be fun to analyze pop fiction.......whatever.



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Re: Trashy Fiction [Re: PGF]
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agreed...

however the Dark Tower as a 'series' would be great for a book club. as for just the individual books themselves, probably not much fun on their own. King has mastered the 'big picture' in the Dark Tower.


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Re: Trashy Fiction [Re: PGF]
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In reply to:

I know I'll gt some shit for this, but Anne Rice's novels are the same. Fun to read, but no one is winning any Nobel prizes.

I like pop culture as much as the next idiot, but pop culture books are not that great for discussion in a serious book club, IMO




I don't think you'll get any shit for that PGF, I mean, I love Anne Rice for entertainment purposes But in most cases..you are probably right about the whole anlyzing thing...HOWEVER..if you read her book Memnoch The Devil...it brought out a good bit of discussion in the spirituality/God area for some folks So I guess it's not really a general author issue as maybe just judging individual works...what do ya think?


~K~

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Re: Trashy Fiction [Re: ]
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BOOK CLUB FORUM



I agree somewhat, however, there is a rich rhetoric of writing that lends some authors to come off as more technically proficient writers than your average best seller list author.

Best seller list books are interesting and fun to read, none the less.

There's a book club forum now. We can carry it to that forum if you like.


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Edited by PGF (05/14/02 08:44 AM)

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