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4rth amanita muscaria experience - 20 grams - MIND SPLITTING
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finally i found the courage to do this, and i liked it, but i don't know if i'am able to explain in word what i felt

15.30 - started eating 20 grams of grounded amanitas
as their taste gets worst every time i've tried it, i swallowed them with milk but it took me 15 minutes, and the taste is still shitty;
also taken a pill (postafen, 25mg) to reduce nausea

16.00 - little bit of nausea

16-24 - nausea increasing; and things seem to expand a little bit when i stare at them

16.51 - nausea almast gone but i feel the void in my stomach; great clarity of mind

17.00 - i'm staring at tha map of the city, seems like i can control the process of slightly

visuals, and there's like a an invisible cone rotaing in front of the map (i can barely see the air it is moving), not really an hallucination

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----    somewhere here i begun to feel strange my mind was split in two, a little part still conscious and the greatest part just shaping new thoughts very fast; yes, i knew it was me who was

thinking all these things, but i could't stop it
so from now on when i say "i felt" ir's really something between "i felt" and "i thought"

i begun to feel me as an "entity" shaped like a short stick and there were other entities around me ... i was pushed to close my eyes and let go, and so i did for 30minutes, and i was kinda slepping...
then when i woke up i felt something (who i called "the mushroom") was attracting me in his

center, and in my mind there was this kind of attracting fluids flashing ritmically for all the time...
i was very confused, i felt like the mushroom wanted me to sleep and let myself go, so i tried to contrast the sleepy feeling...
then the mushroom started to force me to puke, and i was really hesitating about what to do...

seemed like i could decide to puke or not...but finally i didn't do it...
(but i've done it now, 22.30, as i was witing the previous word an istantly nausea has come to me and i puked part of my dinner :scat: ...now i'm fine...reaaly weird!)
i kept contasting the mushroom, and a female-mushroom character came up for few minutes, and i was supposed to "marry" her...as i did't want to, she immediatly had some little mushroom babies, and i was the father...(she has stolen my dna from my saliva!)
i'm sorryn i can't explain the way my mind was thinking these things...it was my mind, i still had little control on it, but it was very fast, easy and natural for my mind to generate these situations...

as i tried to write down my thoughts, i couldn't really  follow my mind and it was terribly hard to find the right leeters on the keyboard...  ------

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18... - "ihavt rha feeling the kungwasr so  eac his ahiskianother nushhweƬrmmeni YHINK ykjig happejing" (this what i actually was writing down...very funny)
,my bryide is pushing me and she'having sons wiht my saliva, as a mushroom!
i force myself no to sleep... 
go away you greedy mushroom entity!
strange way of walking, seems like the shroom can influence the movements of my body

19.00 - it's like my mind is faster than normal, if i look at the map it's like an hallucino-vision and i can influence the "melting things"directions

19.23 getting happy, and i heard like a "wha" around me (i'm not really sure it was something real)

19.42 - now feeling good, no nausea, just high and wavy, and time seems going a little slower than normal, but the main problem is in typing the right letters

20.21 - ok i don't think i'm gonna get more this time: i'm high, the slightely visuals keep on going,  but i'm not getting higher...
maybe the pill has blocked something from the mushroom?
.........


next time i wanna try 25 grams, but the problem is thet i can't really stand the taste of the dried mushroom :poop: ...somewhere i have read it's possible to make tea from FRESH mushrooms (they taste good...)
and i also know the gel-tabs method, but anybody can tell me where these gel-tabs are sold?

...waiting for comments, help, suggestions, whatever!


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Re: 4rth amanita muscaria experience - 20 grams - MIND SPLITTING [Re: hunter83]
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wow i'm still a little bit confused...
i checked my text before posting it, but there are still some mistakes...
sorry (and excuse my english), but you'll get it somehow... :laugh:


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Re: 4rth amanita muscaria experience - 20 grams - MIND SPLITTING [Re: hunter83]
    #6092011 -

wow, sounds intense.

ive yet to eat 20 grams, 10 was enough for me.

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Re: 4rth amanita muscaria experience - 20 grams - MIND SPLITTING [Re: CptnGarden]
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Interesting.

ah I see what was happening at 18. That is very interesting because once when I consumed 17.5 grams, the next day I found ten pages on a pad full of nonsensical notes, none of the words written even resembled real words.
I went back to it, because I remembered that I was writing about my trip and was excited to see what I wrote but it turned out that all I was writing was gibberish.
Amanitas are very interesting.

also You might want to do some research on the consumption of fresh Amanitas. Supposedly they can cause more nausea and the drying process actually converts some "toxic" chemicals into the chemicals that you want(muscimol and ibotenic acid), best to make sure about it.


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Re: 4rth amanita muscaria experience - 20 grams - MIND SPLITTING [Re: Wholefoods]
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If you can't stand the taste, try the tea method if it helps. (no boiling water)

Drink your urine to boost the trip. (amanita actives pass through your metabolic system untouched, still active). Urine is sterile.

Yes, I would never consume amanita fresh. A definite way to get nausea.

Why did you resist sleep?
Have you noticed any difference in your nightly dreams?
Amanita is known to cause tiredness, sleep.. and sometimes the dreams are told to be very special.. or at least after some sleep the state of intoxication is still ongoing and maybe different. Sleep if you feel sleepy, IMO.

Also a suggestion to level out the differences upon mushroom specimens, you should grind up all your stash into one huge pile and mix it well. This way you have a standardized supply. You can rely on the dosage scale more accurately.
Without this standardization, a 10g dosage might actually contain more active molecules than one other 15g dosage from random specimens. Or maybe the difference could not be this big.. but a little difference what so ever. You know?

Also a question about the preparation:
Did you remove gills?
Did you remove stipe?
It is said that the most active part is the yellowish material under the skin of the cap. So removing gills and stipe you increase the potency of your stash although resulting in less material weight.


Good luck.

edit:
Here is a picture how I prepare the fresh specimens at the location of found. Actually I cut out even more of this white meat that is visible. Also the reddish meat is visible here.  :mushroom2:



Edited by astraalialma (09/24/06 01:55 AM)

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Re: 4rth amanita muscaria experience - 20 grams - MIND SPLITTING [Re: astraalialma]
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to astraalialma: THANKS for you help!

my dreams haven't changed during the following days, but now when i think at this amanita "trip" i had it semms to me like i was dreaming... :scaryshroom:  and the "mushroom" is haunting my mind...

:blush: sorry, english is not my birth language,so could you tell me which part of the mushroom is the stype? is the same as stem?
next time i'm gonna follow your advices

can you tell me a good recipe for the amanita tea? with fresh or dried mushrooms?

are you really sure urine is sterile???

....thanks again :thumbup:


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Re: 4rth amanita muscaria experience - 20 grams - MIND SPLITTING [Re: hunter83]
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No problem, thanks. :smile:
Hmm, the tea method is somewhere in the forum. I'll do a search for it tomorrow. You can try too. It's a bit worrying to see many topics spawning about amanita preparation while there are many existing already, which one are the most content rich, we'll find tomorrow perhaps.

Yes, the stipe, or stem.. the leg.

From the book:
Plants of the Gods
Their sacred, healing, and hallucinogenic powers


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    These Siberian mushroom users had no other intoxicants, until the Russians introduced alcohol. They dried the mushrooms in the sun and ingested them either alone or as an extract in water, reindeer milk, or the juice of several sweet plants. When the mushroom was swallowed as a solid, it was first moistened in the mouth, or pellet for the men to swallow. The ceremonial use of the Fly Agaric developed a ritualistic practice of urine-drinking, since these tribesmen learned that the psychoactive principles of the mushroom pass through the body unmetabolized, or in the form of still active metabolites - most unusual for hallucinogenic compounds in plants.

    An early account, referring to the Koryak, reported that "they pour water on some of the mushrooms and boil them. They then drink the liquor, which intoxicates them; the poorer sort, who cannot afford to lay in a store of the mushrooms, post themselves on these occasions round the huts of the rich and watch for the opportunity of the quests coming down to make water and then hold a wooden bowl to receive the urine, which they drink off greedily, as having still some virtue of the mushroom in it, and by this way, they also get drunk."





Urine is the product that your kidneys have filtered out of your blood.. so, I have yet to try this myself thou :smile:

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Re: 4rth amanita muscaria experience - 20 grams - MIND SPLITTING [Re: astraalialma]
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good report

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Re: 4rth amanita muscaria experience - 20 grams - MIND SPLITTING [Re: Trancedd]
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That's very interesting what you described about the splitting.

My first experience with amanitas was in conjunction with my first experience with salvia. I ate the amanitas at 6pm then tried the salvia at 8. Almost instantly I began to see my body as if it was "split" into at least 3 sections. Since this was immediately after smoking the salvia I assumed that it was because of that. Maybe this should have been more attributed to the amanitas though.

Don't worry about your english either. Your english is great. It's a lot better than my swedish. I'm just kidding of course. I don't know any swedish.

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Re: 4rth amanita muscaria experience - 20 grams - MIND SPLITTING [Re: truffleupagus]
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And, btw, they're right. Urine is sterile. Drinking it is actually a healthy practice I guess. I tried it once with amanitas and it did seem to help keep the effects up. I don't know if I would do it again though because I much prefer Pepsi.

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Re: 4rth amanita muscaria experience - 20 grams - MIND SPLITTING [Re: hunter83]
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up in alaska i,ve collected fly agarics in grocery paper bags and brewed them up fresh in tea over a whisper lite backpacking stove, i removed the white specks on top of the cap, boiled for around 30 minutes around 10 big shrooms (sometimes 3inch across the caps)straind out useing a flimsy piece of cotton, squishing all the liquid out, consumed between 2 people at a campfire in the woods shadows creeping in and lots of yawning, eventually went to sleep and had lucid dreaming,lots of flying dreams, knowing your dreaming and controlling the dream is fantastic,i had also backpacked alot of miles up to the night so i was exhausted, might have something to do with effects


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"the way of the warrior is the resolute acceptance of death"

Miyamoto Musashi

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