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My judgment day is everyday

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Re: Terrence Mckenna/Mayans/2012 [Re: BallsDeep]
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from the undictionary

"He is widely credited with being sampled in every psytrance song ever made and discovering that a great change is going to take place in 2012 when millions of New Agers realize the Mayans didn't know shit."


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Re: Terrence Mckenna/Mayans/2012 [Re: BallsDeep]
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So are you going to be a good boy and back this up with evidence or just assume that the Mayans "didnt know shit"

If you choose the latter then fuck off ya twat!


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Re: Terrence Mckenna/Mayans/2012 [Re: BallsDeep]
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Relax. It's only his own opinion.

Saying that the mayans didn't know shit surely is a ridiculous statement though. The Maya civilization is regarded as the most technologically advanced of all pre-Columbian civilizations in the Americas. They produced extremely accurate astronomical observations. Having that said, here is what i think.

I don't believe that there will be some profound event that will change humanity in 2012. Of course i'm curious to see if anything significant has happened by the time it comes around, but personally i just do not lay much faith into such prophecies, especially if they're date of occuring are set on a specific date.

But if there in fact turns out to be a massive change in human consciousness in 2012, then i think it would rather be a gradual transition rather than one profound event.

Just my two cents.


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Re: Terrence Mckenna/Mayans/2012 [Re: AlteredAgain]
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is there a book that he talks about this or is it an interview etc.?

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Re: Terrence Mckenna/Mayans/2012 *DELETED* [Re: musicturkey]
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Re: Terrence Mckenna/Mayans/2012 [Re: BallsDeep]
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The world needs more Terence McKennas...  :thumbup:

Or maybe not...

All I know is I enjoy jumping unabashed into The Mystery......


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“Strengthened by contemplation and study,
I will not fear my passions like a coward.
My body I will give to pleasures,
to diversions that I’ve dreamed of,
to the most daring erotic desires,
to the lustful impulses of my blood, without
any fear at all, for whenever I will—
and I will have the will, strengthened
as I’ll be with contemplation and study—
at the crucial moments I’ll recover
my spirit as was before: ascetic.”

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Re: Terrence Mckenna/Mayans/2012 [Re: BallsDeep]
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i have a feeling you're gonna be disappointed. terrence mckenna writes pop-psychedelic-revisionist-anthropology/history. i have a copy of "food of the gods". i thought it was canon when i was 17 or so. since then i've realized that it's mostly "terrence's theory of history" and there's good reason that most anthropologists and historians pretty much ignore it.

for some reason, there is a strong human desire for the miraculous. catholics believe in sightings of the virgin mary. new age-y psychedelic enthusiasts believe in this 2012 thing.

if you look closely though, it's all quite weird enough without having to make shit up.  :wink:


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Re: Terrence Mckenna/Mayans/2012 [Re: wilshire]
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wilshire said:
i have a feeling you're gonna be disappointed. terrence mckenna writes pop-psychedelic-revisionist-anthropology/history. i have a copy of "food of the gods". i thought it was canon when i was 17 or so. since then i've realized that it's mostly "terrence's theory of history" and there's good reason that most anthropologists and historians pretty much ignore it.

for some reason, there is a strong human desire for the miraculous. catholics believe in sightings of the virgin mary. new age-y psychedelic enthusiasts believe in this 2012 thing.

if you look closely though, it's all quite weird enough without having to make shit up.  :wink:

Far be it from me to judge whether Terence McKenna was on to something--anything at all--with his TimeWave and "Stoned Ape" theories.  I like Terence McKenna because I think he is a good person, and his lectures are visionary in my opinion in that they question the nature of the cultures, world, and universe that we live in in a unique way.  There are many paranoid delusionals in this world--McKenna, at very least, is an honest one.


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“Strengthened by contemplation and study,
I will not fear my passions like a coward.
My body I will give to pleasures,
to diversions that I’ve dreamed of,
to the most daring erotic desires,
to the lustful impulses of my blood, without
any fear at all, for whenever I will—
and I will have the will, strengthened
as I’ll be with contemplation and study—
at the crucial moments I’ll recover
my spirit as was before: ascetic.”

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Re: Terrence Mckenna/Mayans/2012 [Re: Lion]
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Someone posted this link here but I will post again:
http://www.matrixmasters.com/podcasts/index.html

Several terence mckenna talks on there.

As for the whole 2012 thing, I don't think it matters really. Either way, awareness goes on. 'This' never changes.

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Re: Terrence Mckenna/Mayans/2012 [Re: soulcircus]
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soulcircus said:
she beleives our experience of time is getting shorter, and will rapidly decrease to the point where we don't experience time on 2012.


Synchronicities are increasing. Maybe one day everything will just "click"...


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Re: Terrence Mckenna/Mayans/2012 [Re: Revelation]
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Try reading his book, "The Invisible Landscape". . . It goes into fine detail surrounding the Timewave and 2012. . . Lots of mathmatical equations worked through that i can't understand at the back of the book. LOL...

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Re: Terrence Mckenna/Mayans/2012 [Re: MystikMushroom]
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does anyone on the Shroomery have a copy of McKenna's TimeWave software? I wouldn't mind looking at some of the more recent dates


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“Strengthened by contemplation and study,
I will not fear my passions like a coward.
My body I will give to pleasures,
to diversions that I’ve dreamed of,
to the most daring erotic desires,
to the lustful impulses of my blood, without
any fear at all, for whenever I will—
and I will have the will, strengthened
as I’ll be with contemplation and study—
at the crucial moments I’ll recover
my spirit as was before: ascetic.”

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Re: Terrence Mckenna/Mayans/2012 [Re: Lion]
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Log in to view attachment

Here you go:)


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Mad_Larkin said:  Death is just a thang.
:clementine:
MrJellineck said:  Profits, prophets. That's all you jews think about.
sheekle said: life is drugs... and music... and cat... :snowman:

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Re: Terrence Mckenna/Mayans/2012 [Re: aNeway2sayHooray]
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in some poeple's count of the mayan calander (generally considered flawed) the end is on my birthday, december 23rd.

i used to think that was interesting.


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Re: Terrence Mckenna/Mayans/2012 [Re: BallsDeep]
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Like a day becomes a night..

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Re: Terrence Mckenna/Mayans/2012 [Re: BallsDeep]
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I have been mildly interested in the 2012 ideas and have read up on them a bit.  Doesn't the Mayan calendar simply trace an astronomical cycle, a cycle which ends 2012?  I don't see why we should read into this any further.  Yes we are approaching a unique time where such and such planets align with whatever stars and then the cycle will begin again, but I don't think this means anything for us.

Why did the Mayan calendar end at 2012?  This was the end of the cycle.  They probably figured they had plenty of time before they had to make a new calendar.  :smile:  We make our calendars 365 days long, but there is no shift in consciousness on December 31st, it is simply the end of that calendar, and then the next begins.

Terence McKenna is the man and he had cool trippy ideas that are lots of fun to hear and he sounds like a great guy.  And while I respect him and enjoy his ideas, I don't really put a lot of scientific merit into them.  But really, I love you Terence!!!!

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Re: Terrence Mckenna/Mayans/2012 [Re: BallsDeep]
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I've heard good things said about this video but have been unable to watch it due to being stuck on 56k.

Tell me what you think...

2012 - The Future of Mankind


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Re: Terrence Mckenna/Mayans/2012 [Re: Revelation]
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Also checkout Daniel Pinchbeck's book 2012 - Return of Quetzalcoatl. He links a bunch of stuff together with 2012. Very interesting read.

And I can't decide if I'm a fan of Michael Tsarion's or not. SOme of his stuff is damn interesting and some other stuff seems kinda crazy. Like most people I guess.


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Re: Terrence Mckenna/Mayans/2012 [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
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You know, I've watched "2012" go from something I read about on the shroomery, to something that I have had conversations about, to full blown in your face "IT'S REALLY HAPPENING, FOLKS" experiences, on drugs, in a field full of like minded individuals.  All in the space of a few short years.  I've watched the reality of it snowball onto my senses, picking up momentum as it goes.

Today I read this McKennaquote:

"the transcendental object is the despair of description, it cannot be known, it can only be approximated, it's the sacred heart of Jesus, it's the flying saucer, it's the philosopher's stone, it's good LSD, it's all of these things and more. It cannot--it transcends language and understanding, but the closer we get to it, the more it will be revealed. and the reason that the 20th century is so peculiar is that we're so close to the zero point, so close to the transcendental object that you know, take a hit, there it is, close your eyes and daydream, there it is, have an orgasm, there it is, it's trying to break through it's almost upon us, we've been sailing towards this thing for 72 billion years and now we're just years from impact, the walls are so steep the acceleration is so great that we are there for all practical purposes, and what siritual life means is realize that we are there, so that anxiety drains from your life, body and worldview.  And then you just ride the wave, and when people talk about catastrophe, revelation and destruction, you just smile a small smile knowing that it will be all that and more, and more, and more"

Feel the humanity in that.  Compare it to the words of our politicians.  Call it escapism, but it's the only thing that makes sense to me in this fucked up world.

:mushroom2:


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Re: Terrence Mckenna/Mayans/2012 [Re: Revelation]
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Does anyone know how to get the graph from the timewave software on paper? I can't seem to get the program to print..it's a DOS program, and it runs full-screen in XP..

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Re: Terrence Mckenna/Mayans/2012 [Re: BallsDeep]
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once in the midsts of a fairly intense trip i questioned wether or not i had fabricated mr terence. minutes later i realised i had fabricated my entire existance. hours after that i realised i wasnt tripping anymore and forgot all that i had learned.

wether terence was right or wrong, he served an immense purpose in this conscious world, to help us questions the conscience.


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Re: Terrence Mckenna/Mayans/2012 [Re: Revelation]
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my understanding on this is that with technology and the fucked up corporations of the world that things are changing around us at an alarmingly faster and faster pace. i have also been told that Rockefeller is behind much of it, and in his old age and his old school views and his corrupt ways, that he wants 80% of the population dead. Thats how he thinks this world will better itself. See now he is the richest man in the world and in his last years. He can practical do any thing he wants.

See how Bayer pharmaceuticals knowingly sent out its medicine to Europe and Asia and the Latin countries? They sent HIV infected medicine knowingly killing hundreds of thousands of people. This is how its going to happen. Medicine Will turn into bad medicine. The only good medicine will be the ones we make our self. Our food is poison, our water is poison, our medicine is poison. Corporations are poison. Corporations are the scourge of our life time and they have no remorse for human life. Cancer, disease, greed and vanity will destroy us all. Technology will kill us, control us, and be used as a tool on both sides.

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Re: Terrence Mckenna/Mayans/2012 [Re: BallsDeep]
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2012 the trancendece = the end of know historey, a new age. Most of us will die.

We will trancende unto another realm. Just like all the lost civilisations.

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Re: Terrence Mckenna/Mayans/2012 [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
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Well here are the next 4 years according to the timwave...I used Adobe Photoshop CS to resize the orignal jpegs down to 30% of normal, then used windows paint to accent in red the important information. Enjoy!









I think somthing major is going to happen in early '09...Mystik can be quoted for that RIGHT NOW in '06!

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Re: Terrence Mckenna/Mayans/2012 [Re: MystikMushroom]
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Hmm... so things aren't going to get as novel as they are now again until 2009.

It's all business as usual for the next 2 and a half years folks.


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Re: Terrence Mckenna/Mayans/2012 [Re: Revelation]
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i think on december 2012 we will run out of fossil fuels collapsing most of "civilization" and causing the deaths of millions perhaps billions of people and ushering in a new age of living with the earth instead of raping it because the ones who will survive most easily are those who have little or no dependance on fossil fuels and grow their own food and live in the country say on a commune or a farm


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