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Re: Tutorial Mandatory for Registration [Re: Shroomism]
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Shroomism said:
But I agree, maybe it's time to merge them back together.


Hahahahahahaha, maybe it's not. :smirk:

Screw that, man, people have dicked around with P&S far too much. We've been given what we want, and let's leave it at that, eh?

:earth: :sun: :headbang: :satansmoking:
Peace. :mushroom2:


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If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you
:heartpump: :bunnyhug: :yinyang:

:yinyang: :levitate: :earth: :levitate: :yinyang:

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Re: Tutorial Mandatory for Registration [Re: fireworks_god]
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Maybe you got what you wanted, but others are pissed about it. It's not fair to separate topics that are the same.


-FF

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Re: Tutorial Mandatory for Registration [Re: fastfred]
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Who is "pissed" about it?  Those who wanted to discuss their spiritual musings without being questioned have a safe space.  The fact that there is rarely anyone posting there indicates that the outraged group who demanded the split may have been abducted by aliens.  :wink:

Those who wish to debate freely, deeply examine the basis of their professed philosophy, and interact in a fairly unrestricted manner (barring flames) now have a forum sans offended mystics. 

Seems like a good arrangement to me.  Why do you think that anyone is upset about it besides you?  And why are you upset about it?

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Re: Tutorial Mandatory for Registration [Re: Jim]
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:popcorn:


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buh

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Re: Tutorial Mandatory for Registration [Re: shirley knott]
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> Who is "pissed" about it?

Oh come on now. Don't play dumb. You're trying to pretend like the problem doesn't exist and that everyone's happy.

The philosophers are pissed at the paranormalists, the spiritualists are upset with the sectarians, and the mystics are practically at the spiritual philosophers throats.

What you've done is cast out all the views you don't like and thrown them into a reject forum that's on the same topic, but is just created for the minority that you don't like. That isn't fair to *anyone*. If you don't like a little debate then you should be posting on a forum dedicated specifically to your own spiritual views.

It's philosophically wrong to create artificial distinctions just to separate out the people and views that you don't like.

If they let you get away with such foolishness then I think cult should be split into separate forums for WBS, BRF, grains, and POO. Even that wouldn't be as bad as the split between "Philosophy & Spirituality" and "Mysticism, Religion, & the Paranormal". To equal that level of artificial factionalism we would have to split cult into a separate forum for each strain.

Also did you ever think that the division exists solely because of it being continually enforced by exclusionists like you?


-FF

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Re: Tutorial Mandatory for Registration [Re: fastfred]
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Do a little research before you jump to conclusions about why the split occurred & why many of us believe it is still warranted.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/4718128/page/0/fpart/1/vc/1

You don't know who I am or what my beliefs are, so save your personalisms for OTD, please.

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Re: Tutorial Mandatory for Registration [Re: Veritas]
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I'm not so much concerned about why it happened as I am about why it is continuing.

Why can't a peace be made? Why can't P&S accept back a member of their topic?

You're right I don't know your personal beliefs but from what I do know it seems that you're a divisive, elitist separatist. And this whole thing smacks of religious bigotry.


-FF

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Re: Tutorial Mandatory for Registration [Re: fastfred]
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This was never about topics, but about the manner in which topics were to be discussed. Those who claimed their spirituality was being crushed by skeptical responses were the ones who wanted a forum split. The discussion of religion is alive and well in P&S, as anyone who views the forum can tell you.

I do not wish to exclude those who disagree with my beliefs, and have never sought to do so. I supported the split because the apparent alternative was to eliminate debates entirely, and because the "offended" parties requested the split.

You have misunderstood the issues surrounding the split, and misidentified the reasons for the MR&P forum.

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Re: Tutorial Mandatory for Registration [Re: fastfred]
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fastfred said:
I'm not so much concerned about why it happened as I am about why it is continuing.

Why can't a peace be made? Why can't P&S accept back a member of their topic?

You're right I don't know your personal beliefs but from what I do know it seems that you're a divisive, elitist separatist. And this whole thing smacks of religious bigotry.


-FF


Attacking the premise was supported as an integral part of philosophy whereas in the other forum it wasn't. Does that make the division clear?


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Let it not be remembered
That mycelium eats detritus and dies
But that life in all it's glory
Counts mycelium to be on it's side.

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Re: Tutorial Mandatory for Registration [Re: Booby]
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If anything, Philosophy & Spirituality needs to be combined with O.T.D to sort the men from the boys.


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Let it not be remembered
That mycelium eats detritus and dies
But that life in all it's glory
Counts mycelium to be on it's side.

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Re: Tutorial Mandatory for Registration [Re: Booby]
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OK I think I have the perfect solution.

We can combine philosophy with politics, activism, and law. Then combine spirituality with "Mysticism, Religion, & the Paranormal".

Spirituality is religion (agnosticism if nothing else) so that fits perfectly. And philosophy can't stand on it's own since you have to be philosophizing about something.

You can't just philosophize about philosophy can you? That doesn't seem to make any sense to me.

If you could just tack "philosophy" onto something else to make it worthy of it's own topic then we would have to do that with a lot of forums, like "mushroom hunting philosophy" and "contamination philosophy".

So what do you guys thing of my solution? It seems pretty ideal to me!


-FF

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Re: Tutorial Mandatory for Registration [Re: fastfred]
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"never change a running system"


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Re: Tutorial Mandatory for Registration [Re: Anno]
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Good advice.

BTW any lucking fixing the read posts issue or the noobs posts getting cut off when using quotes issues?

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Re: Tutorial Mandatory for Registration [Re: fastfred]
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No, I haven't been able to replicate this bug.
Can you?


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Grow Mushrooms from Spores - PF-Tek for Simple Minds

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Re: Tutorial Mandatory for Registration [Re: Anno]
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No, but from what I've seen it's happening fairly frequently. It seems to happen to people with not that many posts (kind of in the "noob" status) when they use "quotes" who are also using firefox. I've suggested it's a firefox bug, but as you can expect, people don't like that suggestion very much. It might or might not be related to any or all of those circumstances, but that's what I've gathered. Very odd bug.

Good luck trouble shooting that, I don't envy you.


-FF

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