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 Kindnug
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 Technique for growing Copelandia cyanescens? 
#586642 - 03/22/02 06:24 PM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hello everyone, I'm getting a few prints of wild copelandia cyanescens from a friend in Australia but I am not familiar with any techique on how to grow them. I have heard elsewhere that it is not too hard to case, but I'm not sure what to use for either the cakes or the casing material. Can anyone help? I have a bunch of useful stores around so gadening supplies and stuff is no problem. I will be starting the prints off on petris, can I use a homemade PDA for this? Any information and/or guesstimate type recipe's would be greatly appreciated. Please no guesstimates on what will and won't work, I simply meant that if you have known certain ingredients to have worked in the past but you don't know the exact recipe, that is fine. I just need a quality starting point. Hell maybe there is something written on this that I seem to be missing with the search engines? Let me know if anyone has a link to a tek or knows of a book or something, that would help a ton too. Thanks for reading and have a good one!!!
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Re: Technique for growing Copelandia cyanescens? [Re: Kindnug]
#586825 - 03/22/02 10:57 PM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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I suggest you germinate spores on agar, take a wedge and innoculate 50% composted dung and 50% rye grass seed. YOu can also sterilize some malt or honey water, place a wedge into the liquid medium, and start a liquid mycelium slurry. If you use birdseed or rye berries, these substrates have a high nitrogen content, which means a high risk for contamination. However, they do work well as spawn under sterile conditions. Pan mycelium is relatively weak, so use substrates that are lower in nitrogen to minimize failure. To make up for the "nutrient poor" substrate, use a larger volume of it. Remeber to pasteurize neutralized peat and use a very thin layer.
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Kindnug
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Re: Technique for growing Copelandia cyanescens? [Re: Azure]
#586987 - 03/23/02 03:30 AM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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If I don't hear from anybody else, I will probably take the mycelium slurry route. Should I just make syringes with 1 of the prints then? Then I could try a couple dozen petri's from 1 syringe. And have a backup too, if there are no contaminants. Also, I could then essentially spawn with a myc syringe taken from the jar right? It would be a live culture? This sounds just like what I want, once I get the strain isolated down to a few good looking substrains I will create a jar of each, and from those test for fruiting ability. I was confused on how you kept talking about pan cakes, I am talking copelandia's here. Is there a similarity?
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Re: Technique for growing Copelandia cyanescens? [Re: Kindnug]
#586990 - 03/23/02 03:36 AM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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Dont think he said cakes.
Pans and Copelandias are the same animal.
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Re: Technique for growing Copelandia cyanescens? [Re: Kindnug]
#587119 - 03/23/02 07:02 AM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: Technique for growing Copelandia cyanescens? [Re: Kindnug]
#587513 - 03/23/02 05:29 PM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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Dude, I saw you post in the "Pan Cakes" thread asking about that recipe, so use that same recipe, if it can work as cakes it definately works cased. Panaeolus and Copelandia are two names for the same genus, at least as far as we're concerned. This is the technique my salamander is going to try.
Hope this helps and good luck.
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Edited by psyphon (03/23/02 05:30 PM)
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Kindnug
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Re: Technique for growing Copelandia cyanescens? [Re: Anno]
#587725 - 03/23/02 11:18 PM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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Azure, Ass, Psyphon; thank you all so much for the help!! I feel really dumb that I didn't know that the copelandias were a pans, sorry y'all. Sound to me like a great strain to start working on as a progression from cubensis. Anno; I really appreciate you finding those links for me. I learned a ton in a half hour, and that was information that I was definitely searching for. There was everything I needed to know in those 2 links. I am going to use Una's substrate for sure, It is by far the best tek I have seen yet and if Anno recommends it, it is worth a shot. Hell, a few shots........ I should be getting a couple of prints to play with. 1 other quick question, sorry. Because of these being printed from wild growing shrooms, should I also to be safe get a syringe from Ralph and use that too? I mean to say, I'm not really sure of the odds or whatever of me even getting a decent flush out of them.... I will be doing agar work on it to hopefully isolate the best substrain available, and then transferring to a myc slurry when I am satisfied I have a single viable substrain. Would doing this give me pretty decent chances of getting a decent fruiting strain? From the picture he sent me of the harvest, they look first rate!!
Edited by Kindnug (03/23/02 11:27 PM)
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