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acidblue
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Spores101 and a big green mess
#5820014 - 07/04/06 01:22 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I ordered 6 spore syringes from Spores101 a few weeks ago. I inoculated 20 WBS jars with 3 of these syringes in front of a HEPA flow hood. 2 Ecuador, 1 B+. I am sure the jars were good, because I always let them sit for a week or more to make sure no bad growth developes.
Two days after inoculation I noticed green mold starting to appear in all of the jars. The mold is growing like I inoculated with just mold -down the sides of the jars where I squirted the solution and everything. I do not see any white mycelium. All 20 jars are garbage now.
I wrote Spores101 an email suggesting that I return the unused syringes and get a replacement for my order. They offered to replace the 3 i had tried, but none others. here is their response:
"any syringes that do not prove viable we will replace
but please do not just "assume" that they are not and request to send them back because they will be most likley useless by that time even if they are viable, we can send replacements if you claim they didn't work"
To my knowlege, spore solution doesn't just suddenly becomes useless after a few days of shipping. In fact I have used 2-year old solution with NO PROBLEM (ralph's).
It seems perfectly reasonable to me that I would want a replacement order. Why should I have to risk wasting my resources? Any one else had a similar problem with Spores101?
Edited by acidblue (07/04/06 02:09 PM)
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Atheist
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Re: Spores101 and a big green mess [Re: acidblue]
#5820047 - 07/04/06 01:32 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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it was probably your fault, not theirs
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Re: Spores101 and a big green mess [Re: Atheist]
#5820106 - 07/04/06 01:50 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Just request new ones.
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Roadkill
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Re: Spores101 and a big green mess [Re: acidblue]
#5820117 - 07/04/06 01:56 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm trying to understand why you posted...
you contacted them and they offered replacements so what is the problem?
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acidblue
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Re: Spores101 and a big green mess [Re: Roadkill]
#5820143 - 07/04/06 02:06 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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There is nothing to indicate that I contaminated them. I have done enough innoculations to know if i fucked up somewhere. Even if i did fuck up, It wouldnt have been on ALL THE JARS. And I should be able to see *some* ps cube spore germination.
It is obvious to me that these syringes were bad. They offered to replace the 3 i tried, but not the other 3. They said that if i shipped back the other 3, that they would 'be useless by then'. This is an absurd statement. If half my order is bad, i should be able to assume the other half might be.
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Re: Spores101 and a big green mess [Re: acidblue]
#5820172 - 07/04/06 02:17 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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i assume they are different strains. assumeing this its safe to assume that they all wouldn't be the same.
even if they were the same, its still highly unlikely they all turn out the same.
editied:
in other words maybe the jars that were sitting for 2 weeks were to dry for the mold, and when you gave it water BOOM.
just use the syringes you have left, if they don't work get replacements free???
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Edited by makaveli8x8 (07/05/06 12:34 PM)
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acidblue
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Re: Spores101 and a big green mess [Re: acidblue]
#5820174 - 07/04/06 02:18 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Spores101 has offered to replace the whole order. Thanks. I still dont agree that mailing them will cause them to go bad. Whatever.
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acidblue
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Re: Spores101 and a big green mess [Re: makaveli8x8]
#5820197 - 07/04/06 02:27 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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makaveli8x8 said: i assume they are different strains. assumeing this its safe to assume that they all wouldn't be the same.
even if they were the same, its still highly unlikely they all turn out the same.
>>They could easily turn out the same. They were all dated the same. If the water the vendor used was bad, they would all turn out bad. If his hepa flow hood has a problem, they would all turn out bad.
lastly, have you thought that by injecting your spore soulution you could have gave any mold spores in the jar the moisture they were needing to germinate?
>>No. The jars clearly had plenty of moisture.
in other words maybe the jars that were sitting for 2 weeks were to dry for the mold, and when you gave it water BOOM.
just use the syringes you have left, if they don't work get replacements free???
>>So i should have to pressure cook 20 more quarts of WBS, just to see if the other half of my order is good? The substrate, the time, the natural gas, the jars, etc. all cost money. Considering the relatively low cost of producing spore syringes, this seems very silly.
Edited by acidblue (07/04/06 02:29 PM)
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Re: Spores101 and a big green mess [Re: acidblue]
#5820198 - 07/04/06 02:27 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I agree its an absurd statement but really. The shipping alone would probably cost you more then it would cost them to just send out new ones. If you want to try the syringes out just run 3 jars. If wbs is that hard to come by for you I will send you some of mine in exchange for your flowhood. j/k
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acidblue
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Re: Spores101 and a big green mess [Re: JSshroom]
#5820215 - 07/04/06 02:35 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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haha. wbs is not hard to come by. I offered to ship them back out of courtesy.
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Re: Spores101 and a big green mess [Re: acidblue]
#5820721 - 07/04/06 04:59 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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edited:
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Edited by makaveli8x8 (07/05/06 12:34 PM)
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acidblue
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Re: Spores101 and a big green mess [Re: makaveli8x8]
#5821221 - 07/04/06 07:39 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'd rather just have the order replaced than waste *any* more of my time. If I dont have to ship the others back, great. I've inoculated lots of jars with %98-%100 success rate. I already wasted time cooking up the other ones that are now contammed. Enough of my time has been wasted. You see?
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Re: Spores101 and a big green mess [Re: acidblue]
#5822151 - 07/05/06 12:41 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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dude, you do realize that you could have just requested all 6 be replaced the first time, right? Think about it, how is spores101 gonna know if you really shot some jars that came out bad? Not to mention, Spores101 really shouldn't want to know if you were to do something illegal like that.
And anyway, it's not absurd at all for them to say that the syringes you shipped back would "be worthless by then". What the hell are they gonna do with 3 syringes that you send back to them? Sell them to somebody else after they've spent 2 weeks in transit and however long sitting around your crib? Would you want to buy syringes that had made that journey to someone else's crib?
Keep a cooler head next time, sounds like you got great service to me...
Oh and btw
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I've inoculated lots of jars with %98-%100 success rate.
*coughbullshitcough* Nobody makes up lots of jars and has 98-100% success rate. Now if you meant to say that you've made lots of jars, and out of the lots of jars that you've made, you can pick enough successful jars that your success rate would have been 98-100%, if those had been the only jars you had done, then yeah, that's probably true. But if that's the case, why sell yourself short? why not just pick out all the successful jars, and say you've made lots of jars with 100% success rate? Hell, I've made thousands of jars with a 100% success rate (and proabaly a few hundred with a 0% success rate!). Just ribbin you man, just sounded like a pulled out of the ass number and wanted to have some fun with it....
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Re: Spores101 and a big green mess [Re: mycofile]
#5822899 - 07/05/06 09:31 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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This thread sure does make it harder for our company to make the customer happy...especially acidblue. He has been pushy and impatient from the get-go and when we try and help him and make up for our mistakes he smears us on the forums. We stand by our service and products, you just can't make some people happy.
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Re: Spores101 and a big green mess [Re: Spores_101]
#5823006 - 07/05/06 10:13 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ok I am kinda pissed acid blue your causing shit around here and we are trying to make good on your order.
The reason I said they might not be viable is because you said you would send them back.. and syringes travelling across the country would most likley be abused after 2 shipments. We do not want the syringes back, thats why I said we would send replacements.
But now that you have come here and started stirring up shit I feel like your taking advantage of our guarantee and excellent service.
You asked for replacements on part of the order, we offered them, then you come back wanted ALL replaced and you hadn't even used them yet.
We were going to send them but im sorry if you want to cause shit like this and try and badmouth us after we already offered you replacements then you can forget it.
Good luck.
If anyone has a problem with this situation let me know.
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Re: Spores101 and a big green mess [Re: acidblue]
#5823307 - 07/05/06 11:50 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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COUGH...... NO OFFENSE MEANT: 
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~~~~~~>I ordered 6 spore syringes from Spores101 a few weeks ago. I inoculated 20 WBS jars with 3 of these syringes in front of a HEPA flow hood. 2 Ecuador, 1 B+. I am sure the jars were good, because I always let them sit for a week or more to make sure no bad growth developes.
Two days after inoculation I noticed green mold starting to appear in all of the jars. The mold is growing like I inoculated with just mold -down the sides of the jars where I squirted the solution and everything. I do not see any white mycelium. All 20 jars are garbage now. <~~~~~~~~
Mold doesn't turn GREEN until it SPORATLATES (sporulation).
THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN IN 2 DAYS.
Something is BOGUS - HERE
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Edited by Tippinthru (07/05/06 12:03 PM)
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Re: Spores101 and a big green mess [Re: Tippinthru]
#5823444 - 07/05/06 12:32 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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i have one jar, my first green mold and im not sure exactly how long it took but it was under a week it think.
but yah i think its completely wrong to not "try" the syringes.
and im sorry about my previous posts i forgot what forum we were in(couple posts up just reminded me)...um the syringes you have im sure you'll be able to tell if they have green mold by looking at them under your microscope.
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Re: Spores101 and a big green mess [Re: Spores_101]
#5823734 - 07/05/06 02:04 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
SPORES101_COM said:
This thread sure does make it harder for our company to make the customer happy...especially acidblue. He has been pushy and impatient from the get-go and when we try and help him and make up for our mistakes he smears us on the forums. We stand by our service and products, you just can't make some people happy.
Thats pretty much my feeling on the matter too.
A Vendor can only do so much...
and it sounds like you offered to replace his syringes and solve his problem.
acidblue was just rambling on and on...
So I figgured I'd give you the opertunity to reply to this thread before I closed it.
Click!~
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Re: Spores101 and a big green mess [Re: acidblue]
#5823735 - 07/05/06 02:04 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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This thread has been closed.
Reason: enough!~
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