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Drawing tests
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I've seen those pictures from the drawing test on LSD or psilocybin, the line drawings of the face and such...
I was wondering if you guys wanted to contribute to a new drawing test of similar line drawings or similar styled paintings etc, on different drugs. like someone would draw something while using LSD, and again on mescaline, and on mushrooms, DMT(if thats even possible), etc to see the differences in effects of these drugs in a visual manner such as art.

maybe this should go in the art forum, but I figure not as many people are interseted in psychedelic substances over there.


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Re: Drawing tests [Re: HeadTripVertigo]
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Hey i think thats a great idea, but i am artistically defected(?).

Anyone else?

I too have seen those drawings but i'll post the link for those of you who have no idea what Headtrip's talking about. It's pretty damn interesting.

http://www.cowboybooks.com.au/html/acidtrip1.html

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Re: Drawing tests [Re: Phishe]
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There was a scientific study done on the effects of LSD on artistic ability. Several artists were presented with (from what I gathered from the description) "blank dolls" which they were instructed to paint while sober and then under the influence of LSD.

The dolls were then "judged" by another "professor of art history" (or something to that effect). Basically, the conclusion was that while under the influence of LSD the artists THOUGHT they performed more creativly, but upon inspection, their level of skill decreased.


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...the whole experience is (and is as) a profound piece of knowledge.  It is an indellible experience; it is forever known.  I have known myself in a way I doubt I would have ever occurred except as it did.

Smith, P.  Bull. Menninger Clinic (1959) 23:20-27; p. 27.

...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely.

Osmond, H.  Annals, NY Acad Science (1957) 66:418-434; p.436

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Re: Drawing tests [Re: Phishe]
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I volunteer.
I will conduct a drawing test with a low dose of mushrooms (Psilocybe weilii), to contrast with the LSD drawings.
You can see the pictures in the report that I will submit to the 'Trip Reports' sub-forum in the 'Psychedelic Experience' main forum.

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Re: Drawing tests [Re: badchad]
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while under the influence of LSD the artists THOUGHT they performed more creativly, but upon inspection, their level of skill decreased.


Skill of what? Coping with social norms? Conforming their art to what is socially acceptable. That statement you made means absolutely nothing to artists and people that understand art.

In other words, most people can't see anything of value in abstract art, but after you have tripped hard enough, you can see the real value in it, and how you make that value. And you can appreciate how out of the norm that type of art is.


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You are everything's way of feeling itself.

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Re: Drawing tests [Re: mecreateme]
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mecreateme said:
Skill of what? Coping with social norms? Conforming their art to what is socially acceptable. That statement you made means absolutely nothing to artists and people that understand art.

In other words, most people can't see anything of value in abstract art, but after you have tripped hard enough, you can see the real value in it, and how you make that value. And you can appreciate how out of the norm that type of art is.


And what if the person doing the "judging" was an expert in abstract art? How do you judge what is "out of the norm"? Haven't you conformed to the "norm" simply by accepting a definition of "norm"?

I know little about art, nor do I really care, I was just informing you about a study.

The person "judging" (or rating the artists "skill) was a "Professor of Art History". I know nothing more than that, however,I would assume a "Professor of art history" knows more than I.

All I can find at the moment is the abstract. I thought the other comment I made (about the perceived decrease in skill as judged by the "professor of art history" was mentioned in the discussion of the full-text.)

take a look for yourself:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query...l=pubmed_docsum


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...the whole experience is (and is as) a profound piece of knowledge.  It is an indellible experience; it is forever known.  I have known myself in a way I doubt I would have ever occurred except as it did.

Smith, P.  Bull. Menninger Clinic (1959) 23:20-27; p. 27.

...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely.

Osmond, H.  Annals, NY Acad Science (1957) 66:418-434; p.436

Edited by badchad (06/29/06 12:09 AM)

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