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can you trip of ergot plain?
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Simple question... i just hear that back in the ol' days like neer Salem or soithing where all the witchcraft was going on. that they were actually tripping off the bread they ate... which had ergot on it... is this true also?

Edited by Sage (06/18/06 07:44 PM)

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Re: can you trip of ergot plain? [Re: Sage]
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There is a good spell checker button.


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Re: can you trip of ergot plain? [Re: Psy Baba]
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...ohe kae and? what u cant use ur imagination?

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Re: can you trip of ergot plain? [Re: Sage]
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I thought they were dying of the shit


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Re: can you trip of ergot plain? [Re: Sage]
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ther i changed salem

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Re: can you trip of ergot plain? [Re: Sage]
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heh they very well could have i dont know.. but questions must be asked

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Re: can you trip of ergot plain? [Re: Sage]
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I know of the story which you're talking about. They did die and, yes they did trip... but if I remember correctly it was more of delirium. I wouldn't reccomend ever eating ergot in its natural form. I'm pretty certin that it's a poison


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Re: can you trip of ergot plain? [Re: TrippinTeddy]
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awe but the story is awesome... mb someone lived...

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Re: can you trip of ergot plain? [Re: Sage]
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Effects on humans and animals - Ergotism

Main article: Ergotism

Ergot contains alkaloids of the ergoline group, which have a wide range of activities including effects on circulation and neurotransmission. Ergotism is the name for the collection of symptoms a human or animal has when it has ingested (too much of) this fungus. Ergotism went also under the name "St. Anthony's fire" hinting at burning sensations in the limbs[3]. Another effect of ergot alkaloids is vasoconstriction, therefore ergotism may lead to gangrene and loss of the limbs due to limited blood circulation. This may also cause insanity, convulsions, or death, due to limited circulation to the brain. Other symptoms include strong uterine contractions, nausea, seizures, and unconsciousness. Monks of the order of St. Anthony the Great specialized in treating ergotism victims with balms containing tranquilizing and blood circulation-stimulating plants; they were also skilled in amputations. Entire villages have been known to suffer ergotism after the village bakery used infected grain.

In addition to ergot alkaloids, Claviceps paspali also produces tremorgens (paspalitrem) causing "paspalum staggers" in cattle.

Historically, controlled doses of ergot were used to induce abortions and to stop maternal bleeding after childbirth, but simple ergot extract is no longer used as a pharmaceutical.

Among those who studied ergot and its derivatives was Albert Hofmann, whose experiments led to the discovery of LSD, a powerfully hallucinogenic ergot derivative that affects the serotonin system. Contrary to some rumors, ergot contains no LSD, but there are links between the two substances:

* LSD was first synthesised during research on the active ingredients of ergot.
* Lysergic acid, a raw material used in the synthesis of LSD, was and is still prepared from ergot.

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History

The disease cycle of the ergot fungus was first described in the 1800s, but the connection with ergot and epidemics among people and animals was known several hundred years before that.

Human poisoning due to the consumption of rye bread made from ergot-infected grain was common in Europe in the Middle Ages. The phenomenon known as Dancing mania has been blamed on accidental consumption of the fungus.

It has also been posited — though speculatively — that the Salem Witch Trials were initiated by young women who had consumed ergot-tainted rye.

Kykeon, the beverage consumed by participants in the ancient Greek mystery of Eleusinian Mysteries, might have been based on hallucinogens from ergot.

Nowadays, rye grain is infected repeatedly to produce ergot.


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Re: can you trip of ergot plain? [Re: Psy Baba]
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u are talking about "st anthony's fire" which was pointed out above...its a poison...a really nasty poison...do not mess around with ergot unless u have a fairly good grasp of chemicals and chemistry

EDIT: and when I say mess around I mean extractions or synthesis NO ONE should EVER ingest ergot...I dunno which is worse datura or ergot but my guess would be ergot

Edited by Iamthewalrus (06/18/06 08:06 PM)

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Re: can you trip of ergot plain? [Re: Psy Baba]
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Technically yes, but to eat enough would be such toxic levels you are sure to be severely poisoned in a manner of which there is no coming back usually. In other words, absolutely do not do this ergot is extremely dangerous. Even just touching the skin for any period of time can cause serious poisoning (not tripping). If you have a very good knowledge of the LSD synthesis then using ergot to produce LSD is the best way to use ergot. However with a lack of a thorough knowledge of this process, I'd recommend letting someone else take the risk and make it for you.


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Re: can you trip of ergot plain? [Re: CosmicFunGuy]
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DON"T eat ergot if you enjoy having your limbs and extemities

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Re: can you trip of ergot plain? [Re: BobDole]
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Quote:
"ergotism may lead to gangrene and loss of the limbs due to limited blood circulation"


Some links to fill your mind with knowledge :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ergot

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Ergotism is the effect of long-term ergot poisoning, classically due to the ingestion of the alkaloids produced by the Claviceps purpurea fungus which infects rye and other cereals, and more recently by the action of a number of ergoline-based drugs. It is also known as ergotoxicosis or ergot poisoning.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ergotism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gangrene


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Re: can you trip of ergot plain? [Re: Tinkal]
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LSD

excellent

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Re: can you trip of ergot plain? [Re: Iamthewalrus]
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from outta the shit comes a flower

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