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How to with rye
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I am planning on making 20-40 jars. But first off let me tell you my past problem. I have had great sucess with corn casing. Horrible troubles with wbs. And, now I want to try rye.

I think I might go with 20 jars corn, and the other 20 rye. This will be my first time with rye. Can someone tell me how to get proper water content with rye??? I was thinking 1 cup water with 1 cup rye and then pressure cook the jars (50/50 ratio). Any help would be appriciated.

And the corn, I will boil for 45 min then drain and pressure cook. Sound good? tto?

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Re: How to with rye [Re: ChinaBoy]
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http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat...rue#Post4576865


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Re: How to with rye [Re: monstermitch]
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Stamets uses the following formula, which I have also used with great success:

200 grams organic rye
220 ml warm water (the mycelium will be happier if you use spring or distilled water)
1 gram gypsum

Put all of the about in a quart jar, cover with the normal metal lid, shake and leave overnight.

The next day, there is absolutely no need to dump out the water you added, as the previous post's link suggested. Simply shake the jar once more, remove the metal lid, put on an autoclavable plastic lid with a 3/8 inch hole drilled in it and a synthetic filter disc (should also be soaked over night in bleach) then pressure cook/ sterilize @ 15 psi for at least 1 hour (i try to do 2 if I can for insurance). That's all there is to it. The linked tek above is really more complicated than necessary with regard to preparing sterile jars of rye.


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"I, as a responsible adult human being, will never concede the power to anyone to regulate my choice of what I put into my body, or where I go with my mind. From the skin inwards is my jurisdiction, is it not? I choose what may or may not cross that border. Here I am the Customs Agent. I am the Coast guard. I am the sole legal and spiritual government of this territory, and only the laws I choose to enact within myself are applicable." -Alexander Shulgin, PhD, Chemist and author, at the DPF Conference, November 1996

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Re: How to with rye [Re: Wowbobwow12]
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I understand that you can read stamets books.
You will find with his method there will be clumping of grains.
That is why we rinse them.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/5674878#Post5674878


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Re: How to with rye [Re: monstermitch]
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Forgive me! I by no means intended to be rude, I was just relating how I do the procedure. There are many procedures that work, the one I use is just very different from yours so I thought I would share. You're correct that there is some clumping of rye, but the jars colonize very fast for me. However, I do inoculate the jars with multiple pieces of rhizomorphic agar instead of spores, so perhaps that's why I've never had any complaints with regard to clumping.


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"I, as a responsible adult human being, will never concede the power to anyone to regulate my choice of what I put into my body, or where I go with my mind. From the skin inwards is my jurisdiction, is it not? I choose what may or may not cross that border. Here I am the Customs Agent. I am the Coast guard. I am the sole legal and spiritual government of this territory, and only the laws I choose to enact within myself are applicable." -Alexander Shulgin, PhD, Chemist and author, at the DPF Conference, November 1996

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Re: How to with rye [Re: Wowbobwow12]
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Wowbobwow12 said:
Forgive me! I by no means intended to be rude, I was just relating how I do the procedure. There are many procedures that work, the one I use is just very different from yours so I thought I would share. You're correct that there is some clumping of rye, but the jars colonize very fast for me. However, I do inoculate the jars with multiple pieces of rhizomorphic agar instead of spores, so perhaps that's why I've never had any complaints with regard to clumping.


forgiven.
don't see you as rude.
just a little one track that is all.

yes, paul stamets is a great and wise cultivator.
we have all learned from him.
it is good to have you around to keep his methods fresh
in the minds of us here.
I support all of his methods and procedures.
just saying that there is room for improvement.

all suggestions are always welcome.
whatever anyone of us can offer benefits the whole.
so keep on keepin' on.

p.s. that is Magash's procedure, not mine.
I do it differently as well.


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