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last sane moment
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i am searching for some evidence that we human beings lived in peace ones upon a time...
couldnt find anything yet.
help appreciated,articles, web pages and personal thoughts are welcome

cheers


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Re: last sane moment [Re: butterflydawn]
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humans lived in peace before written history


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Re: last sane moment [Re: danlennon3]
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danlennon3 said:
humans lived in peace before written history


That's just silly.

Does the entire natural world seem to be "living in peace" to you?

I mean yes, animals don't make war, but it's do or die out there.

And before we wrote, with our opposable thumbs, we were apes. And apes can be just as violent as humans.

Not gorillas though, they're friendly fuckers. :smile:


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Re: last sane moment [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
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off:onerobot new avatar rox man


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Re: last sane moment [Re: butterflydawn]
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Apparently since WW2 there have been six days when there wasn't some kind of war/conflict going on.

Fights and shit obviously will always be going on, but not the organised mass murder of each other.


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Re: last sane moment [Re: butterflydawn]
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Human beings are animals. We have always been brutal and war-crazy. The idea of "primitive man" who lived in peace came from Rousseau I think, but he was only speculating. The idea of primitive man is needed aesthetically to support the ideal of some kind of communal existence in the future. Very 19th century. But look at WW I and II. Look at the Taiping Rebellion. Look at Vietnam. Look at Iraq.

We will never live in peace, but war has a way of bringing out millenialist and messianic beliefs as a means of escaping present-day horrors. Of course, in order to have Revelation/Kingdom of God you must have a Garden of Eden. In order to have a hope for Utopia you must cling to a supposed golden age in the past. We bookend the present with fantasies disguised as history or prophecy, with the idea that the former proves the latter, and with the assumption that the former is factual.

But it isn't. Sorry.


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Re: last sane moment [Re: quillini]
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we are using our primal instincts the wrong way


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Re: last sane moment [Re: danlennon3]
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danlennon3 said:
humans lived in peace before written history


i'd say the last "sane" moment was just befor those damn monkeys figured out fire...

at that point we kinda drifted apart from the harmony that existed befor

that's just me though i dunno...


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Re: last sane moment [Re: butterflydawn]
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yeah sorry to burst your idealistic bubble

but humans in the past where probably in no way living in peace

it was a daily game of survival

however on a lighter note if we survive the shit known as the 21st century, maybe in the FUTURE humans will some day live in peace

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