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Would anyone like to help start a Marijuana reform group?
    #5570486 - 04/29/06 02:16 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Coming off of this thread:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=chillout&Number=5568911&page=0&fpart=1


I have to ask myself, "Is NORML.org a legitimate Marijuana reform group?".

I offered to help them by redesigning 19 chapter sites free of charge!  (Other than a minuscule fee of $35 hosting a year, which doesn't go to me). It's fine that they don't want my services... well.. I will let you decide. Maybe I am just an asshole. :shrug:


An email I sent to the president of the NORML chapter of Boulder Colorado.
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From: x@x.org
Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2006 4:04 AM
To: president@normlforboulder.org
Subject: NORML for Boulder Inquiry

Did you know about this? http://www.colorado.edu/police/420_Photo_Album/

I design websites and I can build you a much more attractive website for free.

An injunction needs to be filed about the above URL so that there are
no more victims of this public "outing".




This is his reply:

Quote:

Is Will Truckston really your name? If you are from Utah I wonder what interest you have with what goes on at CU. There's no one at CU by that name, so either you're a fictional person or in Utah.

The people depicted in this photo were either breaking the law or trespassing. I recognize a few of them and know that they were not
affiliated with CU, not taxpayers, and therefore unable to defend themselves as being welcome on campus. A landowner and property taxpayer would not be able to be excluded from campus, no matter what the CU administrators think.

However, all those shown are in violation of state law 18-18-406.
I can assure you that no members of NORML were present at the 2006 CU 420 event. We consciously and with forethought decided to be elsewhere.

NORML is involved in reforming laws. In Colorado we are in the process of trying to make legal the possession of one once by persons 21 years of age and older. In order to show to voters that we are serious people with serious ideals we cannot openly break the law. Open use of marijuana in Colorado is a $100 fine and 15 days in jail. It's not much, but it took us a long time to get at least that. Having a bunch of adolescents perform these sort of acts is not helpful.

You may mature with age and understand this, or never really get it.
As to the website. I believe that you have insulted me. You should work on your manners.

Paul Tiger, President of NORML for Boulder president@NORMLforBoulder.org
720-323-0570
PO Box 1903
Longmont, CO 80502-1903
www.normlforboulder.org

Working to reform marijuana laws in Colorado and enforcement in Boulder
County
& representing the 29,286 marijuana users in Boulder County




I responded with:

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From: x@x.org
Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2006 12:48 PM
To: Prez - N4B
Subject: Re: NORML for Boulder Inquiry

I'm not one for giving out my real info over the net. Yes, I'm from
Utah, no my name isn't really Will Truckston. I am 25 since you care.

You seem paranoid, relax man. That website isn't good, don't be
insulted, let me help. I could put up a quick mambo theme, edit it a bit for your requirements, show you the user friendly admin cp and let you go wild.

I saw this on the web, it made me mad and I wanted to help. I'm not some secret government agent looking to get you or anything.




and the final reply email I receive says:

Quote:

I am not a paranoid in the least, but evidently you are. Here's my short answer.

Get lost.





I was probably to harsh with the "secret government agent" part, I had just woken up...

Anyway is this group legitimate? All I see on their main site is "donation" buttons and some Marijuana info. Their chapter sites look atrocious and bring down the feel or legitimacy of the group.

Would anyone be interested in starting another group? I can provide hosting and web design. That is about it, I really (as you can see) have no people skills and my grammar sucks. I would love to do something like this as a part time job due to my incredible amount of free time but I could not do it alone.


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Re: Is NORML.org a legitimate Marijuana reform group? Would anyone like to help start one? [Re: theuser]
    #5570497 - 04/29/06 02:19 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Fuck yeah I'm bored anyway. Let's build an organization!


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Re: Is NORML.org a legitimate Marijuana reform group? Would anyone like to help start one? [Re: Microcosmatrix]
    #5570516 - 04/29/06 02:27 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

NORML has a good reputation, and a long record of dedicated work to reduce or eliminate madatory and other draconian drug laws.

no offense, but your first email wasn't the most forthcoming sales letter--think about it. you admit that you don't like to disclose personal info over the net, yet you expect him from a one-line email with an annonymous name, to jump and say yeah, come on down?

as a chapter head, imagine how many trolling emails he must get (not that i'm accusing you of that). imagine how many attempts have been made to entrap him. imagine how many just stoned kids email him?

and he has a point, NORML works the legislative process, working to get progressive and liberty loving representatives to re-examine our drug laws. If NORML was out toking on every street corner, even the progressives would run and hide.


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Re: Is NORML.org a legitimate Marijuana reform group? Would anyone like to help start one? [Re: Taco Chef]
    #5570523 - 04/29/06 02:32 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Amen to that! :spliff:

NORML is a fine organization - though no organization will be perfect.


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Re: Is NORML.org a legitimate Marijuana reform group? Would anyone like to help start one? *DELETED* [Re: Taco Chef]
    #5570525 - 04/29/06 02:32 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: Is NORML.org a legitimate Marijuana reform group? Would anyone like to help start one? [Re: Taco Chef]
    #5570527 - 04/29/06 02:33 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I agree w/ Novumorganum in some ways. But I also think that guy acted way out of line or "un-buisness" like.


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Re: Is NORML.org a legitimate Marijuana reform group? Would anyone like to help start one? [Re: Ferris]
    #5570528 - 04/29/06 02:34 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

i agree Feriss

if we could apply more grassroots pressure, NORML's case would be taken far more sreiously


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Re: Is NORML.org a legitimate Marijuana reform group? Would anyone like to help start one? [Re: Taco Chef]
    #5570538 - 04/29/06 02:37 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Alright, I am sorry. I didn't mean for it to be a sales email, I don't want any money here.

I would rather not have my name associated with this because of political reasons for the time being.


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Re: Is NORML.org a legitimate Marijuana reform group? Would anyone like to help start one? [Re: Taco Chef]
    #5570547 - 04/29/06 02:41 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

If you are from Utah I wonder what interest you have with what goes on at CU.




I'm sorry, but that sounds rather draconian right there. United we stand, slick...

As a Cannabis user, I espouse the struggle of all Cannabis users world-wide. To him I ask why wouldn't anyone with a brain dislike what has transpired at CU?


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Re: Is NORML.org a legitimate Marijuana reform group? Would anyone like to help start one? [Re: Microcosmatrix]
    #5570553 - 04/29/06 02:42 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I wasn't trying to be a dick or to un-business like. I was attempting to be casual and friendly.

You are right though, the guy prob gets a ton of spam a day from angry people.


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Re: Is NORML.org a legitimate Marijuana reform group? Would anyone like to help start one? [Re: theuser]
    #5570555 - 04/29/06 02:43 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

theolduser said:
I wasn't trying to be a dick or to un-business like. I was attempting to be casual and friendly.





I was calling him that and not you. It seemed to me like your emails were nice and straight forward. But Im sure he gets shit like that all the time.


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Re: Is NORML.org a legitimate Marijuana reform group? Would anyone like to help start one? [Re: Stonerguy]
    #5570564 - 04/29/06 02:46 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

lets just say it was a bad day all around and support getting our drug laws to copy mexicos!!!


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Re: Is NORML.org a legitimate Marijuana reform group? Would anyone like to help start one? [Re: theuser]
    #5570566 - 04/29/06 02:46 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

theolduser said:
I wasn't trying to be a dick or to un-business like. I was attempting to be casual and friendly.

You are right though, the guy prob gets a ton of spam a day from angry people.




Yeah, from the looks of it, he thought it was just spam. As someone else pointed out, he probably gets hundreds of emails like that a day.

I dunno. I think creating another organization is basically reinventing the wheel so to speak. I don't agree with everything NORML does, but overall they seem pretty sincere and they do good work.


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Re: Is NORML.org a legitimate Marijuana reform group? Would anyone like to help start one? [Re: Stonerguy]
    #5570579 - 04/29/06 02:50 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I should have been more professional. Thanks though.

So is anyone interested in starting up a grass root organization?

We could set up a site and maybe hand out fliers.

I am very new to this and don't know what I am doing. :shrug:


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Re: Is NORML.org a legitimate Marijuana reform group? Would anyone like to help start one? [Re: Microcosmatrix]
    #5570586 - 04/29/06 02:52 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

If a shroomery reform club/activist group got started, I for one would support it. Sign me up!


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Re: Is NORML.org a legitimate Marijuana reform group? Would anyone like to help start one? [Re: theuser]
    #5570608 - 04/29/06 02:56 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

And what better than a "grass roots" organization for pot?


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Re: Is NORML.org a legitimate Marijuana reform group? Would anyone like to help start one? [Re: Microcosmatrix]
    #5570619 - 04/29/06 03:00 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Ya we should totally be called the Grass Roots somethingorother

I'll post things up anywhere I see a billboard


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Re: Is NORML.org a legitimate Marijuana reform group? Would anyone like to help start one? [Re: whatever123]
    #5570620 - 04/29/06 03:00 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

i think if we start a reform group it should be more than just a drug reform group, more like a civil rights reform group. because this war on drugs(pot specificlly) is more like a war on civil rights not our safety. we need to draw the line as to where the government can step in and tell us what were doing right or wrong. i think pointing out what is fundamentally wrong with anti-cannabis campaigning through scientific and constitutional fact is what we need to shoot for. i think doing this just right would make people look at the current laws and think "if its not hurting anyone, why should it bother me?"


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Re: Is NORML.org a legitimate Marijuana reform group? Would anyone like to help start one? [Re: KidgardFromSRQ]
    #5570627 - 04/29/06 03:01 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Didn't we have a movement like this before with a secret forum and everything? Where did that go???


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Re: Is NORML.org a legitimate Marijuana reform group? Would anyone like to help start one? [Re: whatever123]
    #5570628 - 04/29/06 03:02 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I sent an apology email to him.

Does anyone here have experience with stuff like this?


We will need a name, nothing silly please.


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