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InvisibleTHE KRAT BARON
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Re: Would anyone like to help start a Marijuana reform group? [Re: Ferris]
    #5570835 - 04/29/06 04:13 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

What are your views on bud being a taxed product? (which legalization will definitely lead to)

Are you ok with paying a tax on a product to the same government that persecuted you for years?


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Re: Would anyone like to help start a Marijuana reform group? [Re: theuser]
    #5570837 - 04/29/06 04:13 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

We need policy statements, peer-reviewed research and studies, legal briefs and case studies, position papers, a media team, perhaps a fund raising arm, membership rolls and monitoring, legal defense the list could go on and on.

forming an advocacy group isn't the easiest thing to do.
If we just have a web-site that says yay we like pot, while we might get a smile out of that, we won't get taken very seriously. likewise our content. a group with just testimonials from smokers will be as bad as some of those DARE or CFDFA sites.


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Re: Would anyone like to help start a Marijuana reform group? [Re: Ferris]
    #5570838 - 04/29/06 04:13 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Focus on pot. We win at pot and the whole wall falls down anyway.


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Re: Would anyone like to help start a Marijuana reform group? [Re: BLAST_420]
    #5570841 - 04/29/06 04:14 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I don't agree with that.


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Re: Would anyone like to help start a Marijuana reform group? [Re: Ferris]
    #5570845 - 04/29/06 04:15 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

While I am willing to pay and build the site, I have no people skills. Also I would rather remain anon for the time being, a few months more is all...

That is a great idea ferris.

I want to promote responsible marijuana use for users 21+. Why 21+? The human brain on average stop developing at 20. This can be debated till the end of time but that is my stand.

I do not promote public use (outside of concerts, raves, gatherings, ect...).

I do not promote "pot head" usage. You KNOW what I am talking about. Those people who smoke pot all day long and lay on the couch, jobless, feeding off their friends kindnesses and pity.

Do you all agree?


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Re: Would anyone like to help start a Marijuana reform group? [Re: THE KRAT BARON]
    #5570846 - 04/29/06 04:15 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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mattzdope said:
What are your views on bud being a taxed product? (which legalization will definitely lead to)




As long as its cultivation were freely allowed just like Corn or Tomatoes, I would actually have to insist (to my local grocer) that it be available in stores.


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Re: Would anyone like to help start a Marijuana reform group? [Re: BLAST_420]
    #5570850 - 04/29/06 04:16 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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well ether its all "ok" or none of it is




Yeah, hold your horses. Pot is their weakpoint anyway. concentrate on it and everything else will work out anyhow.  :thumbup:


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Re: Would anyone like to help start a Marijuana reform group? [Re: Microcosmatrix]
    #5570853 - 04/29/06 04:18 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

What is going to seperate you from the hundreds of other reform groups that have failed miserably in the US thus far? (not trying to be a dick, just bringing up realistic questions)


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Re: Would anyone like to help start a Marijuana reform group? [Re: Microcosmatrix]
    #5570854 - 04/29/06 04:18 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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mattzdope said:
What are your views on bud being a taxed product? (which legalization will definitely lead to)




As long as its cultivation were freely allowed, I would actually have to insist on it being a taxed product available in stores.




Agreed, must be taxed if rather highly IMO, and I would ideally want most of the tax money to go to pay for addiction treatment for harder drugs and drug education, truthful education that is.


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Re: Would anyone like to help start a Marijuana reform group? [Re: Microcosmatrix]
    #5570859 - 04/29/06 04:19 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I think we should be able to smoke at 18 and be allowed to smoke outside on sidewalks and in parks, and there should be no restrictions on how much we can smoke.


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Re: Would anyone like to help start a Marijuana reform group? [Re: THE KRAT BARON]
    #5570865 - 04/29/06 04:21 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Nothing has to set the group apart or infront of other groups. I'd rather it work in conjunction and alongside the other groups, than have to compete against them. Survival of the group is based on the shoulders of people who care enough to keep it going.


Edited by TheMadConductor (04/29/06 04:23 PM)


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Re: Would anyone like to help start a Marijuana reform group? [Re: ClammyJoe]
    #5570869 - 04/29/06 04:24 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Nothing has to set the group apart or infront of other groups. I'd rather it work in conjunction and alongside the other groups, than have to compete against them.




Then why not just join or donate to an already well established group such as NORML?

Working in unison is key, however there must be something that makes your group unique or there's really no point.

The other reform groups have been failing, what can your group do different to stride towards success?


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Re: Would anyone like to help start a Marijuana reform group? [Re: BLAST_420]
    #5570871 - 04/29/06 04:25 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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What is going to seperate you from the hundreds of other reform groups that have failed miserably in the US thus far? (not trying to be a dick, just bringing up realistic questions)




I have tons of free time to help. :shrug:

I don't know if I want to be seperate but I do not fail at things I become passionate about.

I am firm on the 21+ thing. I know that is harsh but I would rather everyone be at their mental peek before using this drug.

I say we do not comment on other drugs. This issue can be debated forever and everyone is going to have different opinions on different drugs. I say we just stick to pot and leave the rest alone for now. 1 thing at a time.

I would rather do something about it than just hand $$ over to NORML.


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Re: Would anyone like to help start a Marijuana reform group? [Re: BLAST_420]
    #5570880 - 04/29/06 04:26 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Pot Policy:

All over age 18 are legally permitted to posess, use, cultivate, give away, or sell any amount of cannabis or related products at any time. The cultivation of cannabis is unregulated for those over 18. For adults over age 18, Cannabis is treated with the same laws as which currently govern the cultivation of tomatoes.

All persons profiting from the sale of home grown cannabis must report their income and pay income taxes, as it is with tomato growers.

Oh, and:

Minors caught smoking Cannabis are given extra homework assignments. If they are expanding their minds, then they're capable of mastering extra subjects.


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Re: Would anyone like to help start a Marijuana reform group? [Re: theuser]
    #5570882 - 04/29/06 04:27 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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mattzdope said:
What is going to seperate you from the hundreds of other reform groups that have failed miserably in the US thus far? (not trying to be a dick, just bringing up realistic questions)




I have tons of free time to help. :shrug:

I don't know if I want to be seperate but I do not fail at things I become passionate about.

I am firm on the 21+ thing. I know that is harsh but I would rather everyone be at their mental peek before using this drug.

I say we do not comment on other drugs. This issue can be debated forever and everyone is going to have different opinions on different drugs. I say we just stick to pot and leave the rest alone for now. 1 thing at a time.

I would rather do something about it than just hand $$ over to NORML.




That's awesome bro. However what is your group going to do other than create a website with viewpoints? What approaches / actions are you going to take towards legalization?


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Re: Would anyone like to help start a Marijuana reform group? [Re: theuser]
    #5570889 - 04/29/06 04:29 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

21+ is bullshit in Amsterdam it is 18+ and shit I started smoking when I was 13 and have had no ill effects.


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Re: Would anyone like to help start a Marijuana reform group? [Re: THE KRAT BARON]
    #5570896 - 04/29/06 04:31 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I don't know, I am completely knew to this idea as of today. :lol: I could print of fliers and hand them out. Newspaper ads can be done, money comes and goes I am not to worried about that.

I would love to hear some ideas. It seems like I should throw up a quick phpbb forum somewhere so we can discuss this in seprate threads and not spam the shroomery. Do you all agree?


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Re: Would anyone like to help start a Marijuana reform group? [Re: BLAST_420]
    #5570899 - 04/29/06 04:31 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

You can't say that for sure.

This is the US, we need stricter laws than other countries to allow, so we can cater to the older generation and republicans


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Re: Would anyone like to help start a Marijuana reform group? [Re: BLAST_420]
    #5570902 - 04/29/06 04:31 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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21+ is bullshit in Amsterdam it is 18+ and shit I started smoking when I was 13 and have had no ill effects.




Fuck taking away your student loan, you have to buckle down harder in school, see my above post.


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Re: Would anyone like to help start a Marijuana reform group? [Re: ClammyJoe]
    #5570905 - 04/29/06 04:32 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I think one thread here can be used to discuss it, as long as the admins have no problem with it, and everyone can stay on topic.


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