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Invisiblenot2sure
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has anyone cold-shocked pans casing?
    #546471 - 02/10/02 09:09 AM (22 years, 4 months ago)

so a friend is getting pretty close to getting these to pin, well she has two pins already in one container, but the newer container still has aggressive mycelium growth. she was wondering if i could ask you fellas if she should put the second container with the fast growing mycelium in the fridge for a day or two to try and initiate pinning? this is her first attempt at these critters, and isn't as experienced as some of you master cultivators :smile:

tia
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InvisiblePapa_Smurf
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Re: has anyone cold-shocked pans casing? [Re: not2sure]
    #546548 - 02/10/02 11:14 AM (22 years, 4 months ago)

do it. COLD SHOCKING ROCKS! Works with cakes, casings, or anything else.


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Re: has anyone cold-shocked pans casing? [Re: not2sure]
    #546554 - 02/10/02 11:21 AM (22 years, 4 months ago)

"Cold shocking is not necessary with any cubensis. Reducing the temperature of the mycelium below 70 F will only slow things down. The time to pin set will get longer. Dropping the temperature from the 80's to the 70's is plenty good enough. The mycelium will begin to form pins without cold shocking. Increased O2, light, nutrient availability inside the mycelial colony, and gentetics determine time to pin.

Cold shocking is not a requirement. Even for aggressive vegetative strains like, mexi-cube, or P. Rican. A thicker casing layer, and earlier intiation is a better strategy then cold shocking. Case thick, incubate for 24-48 hours, and initiate."
quoted from Teonan...i had asked the same question last night, i decided against it.

Edited by MickyFinn (02/10/02 11:24 AM)

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Invisiblenot2sure
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Re: has anyone cold-shocked pans casing? [Re: MickyFinn]
    #546626 - 02/10/02 01:00 PM (22 years, 4 months ago)

ok, i understand your reasonings behind it, but pans arent supposed to like a "thick: casing. is this something she should just ignore and let the mycelium do its thing? lets digress....

Two 1/4 pint jars are emptied into a container containing, with foil on the bottom and sides(clear container :frown: )
a 1/4-1/2 inch layer of casing material (50/50 of peat and verm) are added and then the entire container is covered and incubated for 48 hrs.

some mycelium is seen growing at 24hrs.

open the container and allow the casing to recieve light, provided by an 18" flourescent grow light.

mycelium continues to look extremely healthy, but no signs of pinning yet.
here it is, about 5-6 days later and still no pins, but a good amount of mycelium.

RH is kept between 90-95% as much as possible, the chamber has a tall sauce jar, sterlized, filled with water and h2o2, with a wooden airstone connected to an airpump. the wooden airstone creates smaller bubbles than normal airstones, almost misting the air for you. the other end of the double air pump is just running inside the chamber, for O2 purposes.


any suggestions to this would help.
tia
not2sure


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OfflineMickyFinn
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Re: has anyone cold-shocked pans casing? [Re: not2sure]
    #546643 - 02/10/02 01:20 PM (22 years, 4 months ago)

i know a guy who has a similar setup to yours, the only difference is he doesnt have as much air exchange going on as you do, i think what he does for his air exchange is just lift the lid and fan out. your air exchange system seems to be working fine, as of so far. he is also in the same pinning phaze that you also seem to be in, the only thing different is he used straight verm for his casing (hongus tek) and incubated for a full week, which he later found out wasnt necessary. your humidity seems to be really nice at a 90-95% humidity level. you might be a little higher than that though. his humidity is reading 99% with the similar setup. from what i understand pinning takes places 7-10 days after introduced into the terranium, my guess is that you should be seeing pins before the middle of next week. one quick question though, when your pins appear, how do you plan on getting the humidity down? ive been hearing conflicting info about how much humidity fruits need continue with growth. are you going to try to get it to 80 to 85%? or are you going to maintain 90-95% ???

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Invisiblenot2sure
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Re: has anyone cold-shocked pans casing? [Re: MickyFinn]
    #546649 - 02/10/02 01:28 PM (22 years, 4 months ago)

well, we'll see, again, this is her first attempt with this so....
but if it is recommended that she drops the RH, then she has another chamber ready that stays @ 80-85 RH all the time with just perlite on the bottom. she also just might quit the bubbler in the water, and just shoot for straight air into the setup. that, and stop the misting, which i will imagine will bring the RH down quite a bit. she still needs to buy a good hygrometer, but doenst know which one is recommened. something thats not too pricey either. currently shes using a reptile temp/RH gauge which isnt too accurate if you ask me.

thanks for the replies! she appreciates it!

not2sure


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OfflineMickyFinn
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Re: has anyone cold-shocked pans casing? [Re: not2sure]
    #546658 - 02/10/02 01:40 PM (22 years, 4 months ago)

my friend got his hygrometer at wallys, it was like 14 bucks, i know that they are not 100% accurate, but it seems to work excellent. its a springfield model #91048-w. good luck and keep us posted!

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Re: has anyone cold-shocked pans casing? [Re: not2sure]
    #546793 - 02/10/02 04:48 PM (22 years, 4 months ago)

I say be patient and learn from what you see in the next few days.


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