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rue and cacti
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how much stronger does rue make mesc is it double strg like mushrooms i was planing on for first time 300mg with 3 g rue then second 800 with 3 g rue im brave i have native american blood i want to climb to the heavens so my soul can soar like the eagle


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Re: rue and cacti [Re: thedudenj]
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generally x2 or x3. Keep in mind that the tyramine (what you want to avoid eating, like milk, on an MAOI) in the cacti will be tripled in effectiveness as well, and can cause unpleasant effects or mild sickness.


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Re: rue and cacti [Re: Koala Koolio]
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sweet so if took 125grams and 6 of rue that will put me to a high dose of mesc right i want to have my soul unraveled


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"You all are just  puppets... You have no heart...and cannot feel any pain...""
you may think thats pain you feel but you must have a heart to feel true pain and that pain wont be yours

Edited by thedudenj (02/07/06 04:21 PM)

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Re: rue and cacti [Re: thedudenj]
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Depends. It's too much rue anyway. Did you read what I said about tyramine, or skip that part?

I really... really wouldn't do what you're suggesting without knowing how good it is. if it is what I think it is, another member reported 1.2% alkaloids. That's 1.5g for your powder. That's 4.5 considering the rue, plus 6 grams is disgustingly high. Mescaline is gentle even at high doses but man, 4.5g? Why the hell would you push it that high at this point?


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Re: rue and cacti [Re: Koala Koolio]
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o 125grams of powder torch, 6g of rue isnt that high for me im like hendrix when if comes to psychedelics. but to play it safe ill only take 4 grams rue and then 125 of cactus skin powder.


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Re: rue and cacti [Re: thedudenj]
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Great, whatever.


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Re: rue and cacti [Re: Koala Koolio]
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uhh.... I took 1 gram of rue. I wouldn't really see why there is a point to take beyond 2 grams.


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Re: rue and cacti [Re: thedudenj]
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Couldn't you maybe check the Merk Index for a possible solvent which the tyramine is soluable in but the M isn't or vise versa. Just a thought.


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Re: rue and cacti [Re: thedudenj]
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thedudenj said:
how much stronger does rue make mesc is it double strg like mushrooms i was planing on for first time 300mg with 3 g rue then second 800 with 3 g rue im brave i have native american blood i want to climb to the heavens so my soul can soar like the eagle


I would do this with mescaline only, as in extracted mescaline hcl or sulfate.

800mg of mescaline hcl is quite the experience. I know, I've done it. Mescaline doesn't warp your mind, but it is very exhausting to the body. Make sure to have a day to rest afterwards.


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