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drtyfrnk
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Re: Last Night I Kissed My Friend Who Is Engaged [Re: lemon_lw]
#5259128 - 02/03/06 12:39 PM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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Alright, time to cut this thread's head off and let it grow another :P
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Re: Last Night I Kissed My Friend Who Is Engaged [Re: drtyfrnk]
#5259147 - 02/03/06 12:44 PM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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One word, "Ecstasy."
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Re: Last Night I Kissed My Friend Who Is Engaged [Re: MenuShroom]
#5259155 - 02/03/06 12:45 PM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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I didn't get the impression that is was forced at all. I don't doubt for a minute that she wanted it just as badly as you did. I guess the point that I'm trying to make is that you, personally, should have higher standards for yourself.
She might be hot, but she sounds sleazy...hooking up with a bunch of guys while in a relationship and whatnot. Personally, I wouldn't waste my time.
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Re: Last Night I Kissed My Friend Who Is Engaged [Re: Anonymous]
#5259156 - 02/03/06 12:46 PM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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Civic- Never tried Ecstasy but I think I want to once. I can't imagine what thats like.
Ifallapart - yeah I feel you. She is kind of a lost soul I think... You have to wonder though, does a girl just need the right guy for those types of actions to go away? Maybe , maybe not. But I'm not going to be that guy that tests that theory out.
Edited by MenuShroom (02/03/06 12:48 PM)
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Re: Last Night I Kissed My Friend Who Is Engaged [Re: MenuShroom]
#5259162 - 02/03/06 12:48 PM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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When you start worrying about what's right and what's wrong you go cuckoo and miss out on a lot. If you want that shit, get that shit. Doesn't sound like she had any objection to your action.
Talk to her, see what she thinks. You're either fucked, or gonna get fucked
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Re: Last Night I Kissed My Friend Who Is Engaged [Re: MenuShroom]
#5259165 - 02/03/06 12:49 PM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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MenuShroom said: But I'm not going to be that guy that tests that theory out.
Good...because in all likelihood, she'd just treat you the same way.
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Re: Last Night I Kissed My Friend Who Is Engaged [Re: Liz]
#5259171 - 02/03/06 12:52 PM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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Daimyo - Yeah...I think even though my entire room would steam up and the paint would peel off if we had sex, I'm not going to go there. Damn though that would be hot.
Edited by MenuShroom (02/03/06 12:54 PM)
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Re: Last Night I Kissed My Friend Who Is Engaged [Re: MenuShroom]
#5259178 - 02/03/06 12:54 PM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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MenuShroom said: I think even though my entire room with steam up and the paint would peel off if we had sex, I'm not going to go there. Damn though that would be hot.
You've just made a pretty good case for why you SHOULD go there!
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Re: Last Night I Kissed My Friend Who Is Engaged [Re: Liz]
#5259190 - 02/03/06 12:58 PM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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ifallapart said: Not to sound like an asshole or anything, but I think what you did was sorta fucked up. The girl is engaged, and while some people might make the argument that she's the one in the relationship and therefore she should be the one to decide how far things go, I disagree with that. I personally would feel pretty guilty about kissing a girl that is spoken for, regardless of whether she wanted it or not...because her fiancee could be a pretty nice guy, who actually loves her. She sounds like a tramp to me...and if you want to be "that guy" that hooks up with another man's girl...I guess go for yours. But, if he hears about it and beats your ass, I wouldn't blame him in the least.
i think youre forgetting about some very important emotional issues at hand here. the guy feels heated emotions hes never felt before, and when such emotions come it should, most of the time, be explored,along with a fiancee who doesnt seem to be in love with the husband-to-be. obviously, there are limits. everything in moderation, balance, yin yang, etc etc. which he did by only kissing her and not having sex with her. humans have animal instincts, which normally is to survive and reproduce. this however sounds much more complex since he was not following either of those paths. he was on a higher road so to say (i hate that phrase... "higher road/path"... its so hippy...). if anything, this guy sounds like he has a better history with the girl than the husband-to-be does... (the wedding-to-be sounds like a disaster waiting to happen anyway). maybe he is the one she really wants. maybe he can save her from a marrage she doesnt really want, a marriage without love. im not saying he should marry her, but that he probably showed her something she hasnt seen in a long time.
sometimes the smallest things can have the strongest effect. sometimes it starts a domino effect, in either a good or bad direction. and so far it only seems to be in the good direction (although yea, it can go horribly wrong... lol).
i say cheers to him for not being afraid to follow his instincts and go with what felt right. sometimes we need o think with our head. other times we need to feel with our heart.
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Re: Last Night I Kissed My Friend Who Is Engaged [Re: daimyo]
#5259194 - 02/03/06 12:59 PM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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daimyo said: When you start worrying about what's right and what's wrong you go cuckoo and miss out on a lot.
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Re: Last Night I Kissed My Friend Who Is Engaged [Re: eligal]
#5259205 - 02/03/06 01:01 PM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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you didnt nailed her to the sheets! you sick bastard! how can you have not done that !
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Re: Last Night I Kissed My Friend Who Is Engaged [Re: eligal]
#5259220 - 02/03/06 01:05 PM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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It's definitely a very good argument...but I don't think it's anything like the fairytale story you're arguing it could be, with him being the one she really wants, and him "saving" them both from a horrible marriage. I think that just sounds like an attempt to justify irresponsible actions. The girl, in my opinion, sounds like a whore who hooks up with everyone BUT her fiancee.
Even if the marriage-to-be is "doomed" that should not be brought to light by her hooking up with a bunch of guys who are willing to be her casual side hookups. Maybe I'm just a moral person, but I always try to live by the motto of treating others the way I would want them to treat me, and I know how much it hurts to have someone hook up your fiancee - I've been there, and it fucking hurts. Just my 2 cents.
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Re: Last Night I Kissed My Friend Who Is Engaged [Re: Liz]
#5259246 - 02/03/06 01:13 PM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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ifallapart said: Maybe I'm just a moral person, but I always try to live by the motto of treating others the way I would want them to treat me
The only ones with moral obligations are the two that are engaged. If one of the two goes for someone else, why shouldn't that person take part? Granted, he sort of made the moves, but it wasn't unprovoked, and certainly wasn't stopped.
If it were my fiancee, I'd rather find out now she's a whore than after a marriage. Save me the divorce proceedings and the money. I'd probably shake the persons hand and buy them a drink.
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Re: Last Night I Kissed My Friend Who Is Engaged [Re: Liz]
#5259267 - 02/03/06 01:17 PM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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ifallapart said: It's definitely a very good argument...but I don't think it's anything like the fairytale story you're arguing it could be, with him being the one she really wants, and him "saving" them both from a horrible marriage. I think that just sounds like an attempt to justify irresponsible actions. The girl, in my opinion, sounds like a whore who hooks up with everyone BUT her fiancee.
Even if the marriage-to-be is "doomed" that should not be brought to light by her hooking up with a bunch of guys who are willing to be her casual side hookups. Maybe I'm just a moral person, but I always try to live by the motto of treating others the way I would want them to treat me, and I know how much it hurts to have someone hook up your fiancee - I've been there, and it fucking hurts. Just my 2 cents.
ok, lol. i didnt want it to sound like some fairytale bullshit either... but what im saying is, we dont know at all, so we cant be all that judgemental. maybe hes not the one she wants. maybe he didnt/wont "save" her from a bad marrage. but he did show her an emotional level she probably hasnt seen in a long time. and for the other guy, hes gonna get cheated on no matter what. if she cheats then atleast its with a guy who treats her right, and doesnt only think of bangin her (if i was in a deep relationship, and i got cheated on, then yes, it would hurt, but i would hope it was atleast with a nice guy who didnt/wouldnt hurt her).
mayeb she is a whore, but then, shes a whore! and probably always will be a whore, thus, again, will cheat in the husband no matter what.
basically what im sayin is, his actions, imo, were not irresponsable, they were the right actions to take. im not trying to justify what he did. he did it not me, so if there was something i disagreed with id say it. but i honestly think he handled himself perfectly (yea i said perfectly).
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Re: Last Night I Kissed My Friend Who Is Engaged [Re: Liz]
#5259269 - 02/03/06 01:17 PM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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ifallapart - Yeah dude I bet that hurt. I know what your saying. It reminds me though of a guy I met while being an extra for a tv show in California. He came home one day to find his long-time girlfriend having sex with some guy on his bed. He was enraged, so he ripped this guy off her. But he didn't care about the guy, it was her that he was mad at.
I know what your saying about treating others how you want to be treated, but there are definitely constraints to this type of thinking. For instance, say I really like this girl, but I know that a friend of a friend really likes her too... The reality is, he's going to be butt-hurt if we end up going out. But sometimes you just have to take it for what it is. I've been on the shitty end of the stick too.
This girl is not a whore, but she's not an angel. She's got some issues... I do care about her. I want whats right for her, and I really don't think she should be getting married to a guy that she doesn't even trust. It seems the whole thing is doomed... and, well I guess I may be playing a part in that.
Eligal - thx. I think I did show her something else, and maybe it can steer her in the right direction.
Gotta get going now, my non-internet-life awaits me.
Edited by MenuShroom (02/03/06 01:19 PM)
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Re: Last Night I Kissed My Friend Who Is Engaged [Re: MenuShroom]
#5259486 - 02/03/06 02:08 PM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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So, you didn't get laid?
What do you want to bet he jacked off like 10 times the second she left?
Edited by RandalFlagg (02/03/06 02:13 PM)
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Re: Last Night I Kissed My Friend Who Is Engaged [Re: Liz]
#5259536 - 02/03/06 02:23 PM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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ifallapart said: She might be hot, but she sounds sleazy...
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Re: Last Night I Kissed My Friend Who Is Engaged [Re: kit_kat]
#5259644 - 02/03/06 03:07 PM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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kit_kat said:
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MenuShroom said:
I think even though my entire room with steam up and the paint would peel off if we had sex, I'm not going to go there. Damn though that would be hot.
You've just made a pretty good case for why you SHOULD go there!
I like your thinking kit_kat!~
besides...She isn't married YET.
I wouldn't get seriously involved with her... but I'd hit it and enjoy the moment.
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Re: Last Night I Kissed My Friend Who Is Engaged [Re: Roadkill]
#5259690 - 02/03/06 03:23 PM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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Woah......
That graphic in your signature got me riled up. (I'm from Pittsbugh)
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Re: Last Night I Kissed My Friend Who Is Engaged [Re: RandalFlagg]
#5259696 - 02/03/06 03:26 PM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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That's a drawing of me peeing on that helmet. It's uncanny, really. I do that every day in real life.
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