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Ythan said:

Lame as hell. Get a life

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Ythan said:

I write this post as the founding member of the Shroomery and its most senior administrator, to proclaim my intention upon starting the site, and to help guide future decisions affecting its members. This should not be read as an official policy, rather it simply represents my personal goals and wishes when it comes to running the site. It is my greatest desire that the Shroomery remain a haven for free speech and differing ideologies, including those generally deemed offensive and detestable, as long as such speech is not illegal, expresses a genuine belief or opinion, and is not an obvious attempt to generate discord or disrupt the community (aka 'trolling'). I contend that it is the duty of the administration to extend equal rights and privileges to all members (including disliked and controversial ones), and to ensure that site guidelines are enforced fairly and without prejudice due to an individual's beliefs. The administration should make reasonable accommodations for those with controversial viewpoints, including equal access to the site's resources and a public forum to express their opinions. Under no circumstances should disciplinary or punitive action be based on what could be considered moral judgment, only on specific infractions spelled out in advance. These principles should take priority over all others, especially offering a 'friendly', 'non-threatening' or 'non-controversial' atmosphere. I propose that the freedom we provide is the site's most unique and valuable aspect, and it should be a top priority of the administration to safeguard said freedom. Finally, it is not my intention for people to over-analyze this statement, 'read between the lines' or twist my quotes to support any position beyond the one specifically outlined within: questions of free speech on the Shroomery should not be decided on moral grounds.

-Ythan
10/28/05

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Don't I fit in with the racists and child molesters Ythan?

Bias bans never go away.

I have offered TWO suggestions to FIX THIS PROBLEM.

1. End Shroomery Bias

2. Permaban, when banning with bias, so the drama will stop (a la Dozer).

Neither option is perfect (there's a BETTER idea out there somewhere) but BOTH are better than the current system. Where someone is banned with bias, gets UNDERSTANDABLY UPSET, and causes more drama.... gets banned again, comes back CAUSES MORE DRAMA, gets BANNED AGAIN...

There's a better way.

I stepped into the line of fire to show you WHY IT DOESN'T WORK. I wish I could have explained myself in a MORE PEACEFUL MANOR, but a year of PEACEFUL discussion only served to get me lumped with Swami.

Ythan, if you don't give EVERYBODY EQUAL RIGHTS TO EXPRESS THEMSELVES, you won't be following your OWN WORDS (which I quoted above). Somebody on The Staff has GOT TO understand what I am saying, here.

Anyway, stop banning me, the drama is over from my end, as I said LAST TIME, when you banned me anwyay, for 5 days. You banned a Shroomerite who was holding the peace sign. Thanks. That'll teach me to confess my wrongs.

I HAVE SERVED MY TIME

Had you answered my SUPPORT TICKET, I wouldn't have needed to make this post. So, please do not ban me for simply making another post in here. BTW, the post that got me banned, I asked an ADMIN for permission to post it. Permission was granted. I posted. Then I was banned.

Bias is a problem.

Answer my support ticket. So I can go on with my Shroomery citizenship.

You'll fix the bias problem in a few months.

Happy Christmas (War IS Over)

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From : Shroomery Support <noreply@shroomery.org>
Sent : Saturday, December 17, 2005 12:22 AM
To : me
Subject : Ticket created (TicketID #808): Help


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Your support request has been received by the Shroomery. Please do not reply to
this email, if you wish to add additional information to your inquiry use the
URL listed below. You will get another information email once your ticket is
replied by an administrator. For your information, your ticket ID is #808.

Quick access URL:
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Ticket ID: #808
Subject: Help
Assigned operator: Thor
Department: Forums
Details:
If I can't post an apology or feedback, what CAN I post? I've got 5 days to
figure out WHICH rule I broke to get banned, and to find out WHAT will keep me
from getting banned in The FUTURE.

I want PEACE.

Help me achieve it.

What can I do?

I didn't see this ban coming. And the reason for banning,

Quote:

Ban reason: Lame
as hell, get a life.

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doesn't help.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat...84a#Post5073928
I had just posted that thread, and before posting it sent geo THIS letter:

Aw hell, I'm banned, so I can't post it. Regardless, I asked him IF I could
post again, about such things in WA&F... he said basically, POST AWAY. He
even seemed stunned I asked, thinking it was silly. Doesn't seem silly NOW,
since it got me banned.

I spent TWO DAYS writing that post, and intended it as an apology. I was VERY
SURPRISED AT THE OUTCOME.

It is not my intent to return from this ban and cry BLOODY MURDER about my
treatment. Rather, I want such treatment to stop.

I don't know how else to say it:

Help.
Cerv

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Cervantes said:

I just want assurance that if I stop on my end, I will be free to post (at my own risk).

And, I really want to know if I have been banned more than once. Important info... no?

I made my point, and served my time. I have no further need to continue Drama from my end. And, this is coming from a guy fresh off a 5 day vacation.

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