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Trying low dose of mushrooms for first time with panic attacks.
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I?m going to try to lay everything out on the table, so as to give the readers as much accurate information as possible. I also will provide summaries in brackets below each paragraphs for those who don?t want to read all of my writing.

About Me:
18
Occasional panic attacks
Only tried marijuana and benzos before.

I?ve had Depression/Panic attacks since around age 12 when I went away to a sleep away camp. It was my first time away from home, and since then I avoided and hated going away from home, so much so that I am going to a college and commuting from home. I recently have made tremendous progress on this problem, after a couple fruitless years of different anti-depressants (most which had no effects whatsoever) with both the help of benzodiazepines, and maturity and time. I am now can stay away from home and am transferring in the fall to another, further away college. However I am fully rational, and appear normal/slightly eccentric to others.

[I have panic attacks, and maybe depression, and I am thinking of trying mushrooms.]

I have allowed a long time between my first impulse to try a hallucinogen and now. It has been almost a year of me toying with the idea and researching it. I don?t want to have a very intense trip because of my panic attacks, but I do have the benzodiazepine Klonopin, in case I do panic.

[I have access to a benzo in case I panic, want to try a low dose, and have thought this idea through.]

My opportunity occurs a few days after Christmas, when I have my home free for two entire days. I want to try my experience at home, because of my panic, as it is the most comfortable place (emotionally) that I have. My friend, who smokes marijuana (as do I), is willing to trip sit me. I have turned down other people?s offers to trip, because I would not feel comfortable tripping with them and/or they wanted to do it at a place other than my home. The kid that will trip sit me is my best friend, and I trust him very much, but he has never tried psychedelics, which I hear is not a desirable quality as they cannot really relate to you.

[I plan to trip in my house (most emotionally comfortable place), with a close friend trip sitting me, a few days after X-mas. Unfortunately he has never tripped before.]

What makes me question my plan is the fact that even reading some of the better trip reports makes me slightly nervous as to how I will handle this alternate reality. I have only been nervous once while smoking weed, out of the hundreds of times I?ve smoked, in general I find weed to relax me and make me much less prone to panic attacks.

My goal of this trip is not only for fun, but to hopefully help me learn something about myself/my anxiety.

My Questions are as Follows:
(Feel free to answer only some of them, as there are a bunch.)

1. Should I trip?
2. Is my friend a good candidate for a trip sitter?
3. How much of the Benzodiazepine should I take for a bad trip? (I normally take .25 or .5 mg., but have used up to 2 mg. with no negative effects.)
4. Should I take the Benzo with the mushrooms as a preventative, or should I wait and take as needed?
5. Is my anxiety a bad sign/ possible cause of a bad trip?
6. How much should I take? (I?m definitely not taking more than a half-eighth, and no less than a gram.)

I mostly want to know what you guys think about this scenario: Good idea/Bad idea.

Thanks in Advance

Paranoid First timer :wink:
Should I try mushrooms?
You may choose only one


Votes accepted from 11/29/05 07:10 PM until the end of time
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Edited by Cykon (11/29/05 07:12 PM)

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Re: Trying low dose of mushrooms for first time with panic attacks. [Re: Cykon]
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you sound like a very well informed individual! Congratulations! :thumbup:

1) Yes, go for it!
2) If you trust him more than anyone else you can think of then he is a perfect trip sitter. He doesn't have to be able to relate to your experiance, he just has to be there to make sure you don't hurt yourself phyically, and so you don't get lonely. Even the most experianced trip sitter can't talk a person out of a bad trip...
3) I've never taken klonopins so I don't know. Just take what you normally would take.
4)If I were you I would only take it as a last resort. If you do happen to panic, it will probably be good for you to try and learn to cope without the pills. It might be a hellish experiance, but it could also have a lot of benefits! I would suggest not taking it unless you are crying for at least an hour.
5) I'm not going to lie to you. Your anxiety does make you a bit more likely to get anxious during your trip. But confronting your anxiety in the psychedelic state is the first step to change.
6) I would say take 2g. It shouldn't be enough to shatter your world, but it should be enough to put you where you need to be. If you want to try a low dose your first time to become familiar with the effects, maybe just try 1-1.5g.

From the sounds of it you are ready to go! Good luck, and have a wonderful trip! May the shroom-gods smile upon you... :heart: :shroom: :thumbup:


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Re: Trying low dose of mushrooms for first time with panic attacks. [Re: dr0mni]
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oh, and I LOVE how well organized your post is! LOL!


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Re: Trying low dose of mushrooms for first time with panic attacks. [Re: dr0mni]
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dr0mni said:
you sound like a very well informed individual! Congratulations! :thumbup:

1) Yes, go for it!
2) If you trust him more than anyone else you can think of then he is a perfect trip sitter. He doesn't have to be able to relate to your experiance, he just has to be there to make sure you don't hurt yourself phyically, and so you don't get lonely. Even the most experianced trip sitter can't talk a person out of a bad trip...
3) I've never taken klonopins so I don't know. Just take what you normally would take.
4)If I were you I would only take it as a last resort. If you do happen to panic, it will probably be good for you to try and learn to cope without the pills. It might be a hellish experiance, but it could also have a lot of benefits! I would suggest not taking it unless you are crying for at least an hour.
5) I'm not going to lie to you. Your anxiety does make you a bit more likely to get anxious during your trip. But confronting your anxiety in the psychedelic state is the first step to change.
6) I would say take 2g. It shouldn't be enough to shatter your world, but it should be enough to put you where you need to be. If you want to try a low dose your first time to become familiar with the effects, maybe just try 1-1.5g.

From the sounds of it you are ready to go! Good luck, and have a wonderful trip! May the shroom-gods smile upon you... :heart: :shroom: :thumbup:


Your information is awesome and supportive at the same time, well said.. very well said :smile:

Enjoy your trip  :mushroom2: :thumbup: Good vibes are bieng sent your way!! :laugh:


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Re: Trying low dose of mushrooms for first time with panic attacks. [Re: Shroomeyfinder]
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You'll be fine. If shit starts going bad just remember your on a drug and it'll be over soon.

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Re: Trying low dose of mushrooms for first time with panic attacks. [Re: Cykon]
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Cykon said:
What makes me question my plan is the fact that even reading some of the better trip reports makes me slightly nervous as to how I will handle this alternate reality.


All I can say is that by the very nature of the experience, its alieness to 'normal' consciousness, it can be frightening ... and there will be fear, no doubt. It is a normal aspect of the entire process. We all go through it.

If you fight through the fear, or accept it, and don't submit to it (curling up and wishing for the experience to end), I can't even begin to describe how amazing it can be.

You seem like a sensible person so I'm sure you'll make the right choice. Best of luck to you.

I should also mention that a friend of mine suffered an anxiety attack during a very low dose mushroom trip, and suffered anxiety from then on until he dosed on shrooms again. Fire with fire.

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Re: Trying low dose of mushrooms for first time with panic attacks. [Re: MushroomMonster]
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I find that at low amounts mushrooms aren't really panic inducing at all, probobly much less than marijuana. They have a sort of psychedelic intoxication that keeps things smooth, by the time you are really tripping it feels natural. Not many alarm bells go off. BUT, if you do panic they will multiply it alot.

My guess is that you will be fine and probobly have a nice time. Just make sure that there is nothing in your environment or your subconscious that will make you nervous or panic and you'll be good.


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2. "We were feeling pretty good so we decided to smoke a few bowls..."
3. "I had to be real quiet because my parents were asleep upstairs..."

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Re: Trying low dose of mushrooms for first time with panic attacks. [Re: Divided_Sky]
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Low dose? Like how low are you talking?

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Re: Trying low dose of mushrooms for first time with panic attacks. [Re: WallofSleep]
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WallofSleep said:
Low dose? Like how low are you talking?


This thread is four years old, I'm sure he figured out the perfect dose.


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