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SYMBOLS !@#$%^&*()ABCDEFGHIJKJLNOPQRSTUVWXYZ
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how the fucking hell did we come up with (or learn) about them?

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Re: SYMBOLS !@#$%^&*()ABCDEFGHIJKJLNOPQRSTUVWXYZ [Re: TameMe]
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light.. :wink:


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Re: SYMBOLS !@#$%^&*()ABCDEFGHIJKJLNOPQRSTUVWXYZ [Re: Gomp]
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:thumbup:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: SYMBOLS !@#$%^&*()ABCDEFGHIJKJLNOPQRSTUVWXYZ [Re: Icelander]
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that simple!??!

i was hoping for something more....

i guess maybe i could do some research.

Edited by TameMe (11/09/05 09:28 AM)

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Re: SYMBOLS !@#$%^&*()ABCDEFGHIJKJLNOPQRSTUVWXYZ [Re: TameMe]
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I think animals created symbols the moment they started developing language. when assigning a specific sound a specific meaning, you have the first symbol. it's the moment you create the abstract reference to something real. but if dna can be interpreted as the use of symbols, then the whole thing goes way back to the birth of life and is ultimately intrinsic to it. it just took a few million years until you had a living being capable of starting decoding life itself.

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Re: SYMBOLS !@#$%^&*()ABCDEFGHIJKJLNOPQRSTUVWXYZ [Re: TameMe]
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In ancient times, every symbol stood for somehting special.
Turn the A on its head, and you see a taurus, the original meaning of that letter. Somewhere I have written down all of them and their transormation from original symbols to letters...
I don't know, when the symbols did loose their meaning for things and stood only for vocals and consonants, but that happened of course, because you need much vewer symbols for much more words.


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Though lovers be lost love shall not  And death shall have no dominion
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"Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men."Martin Luther King, Jr.
'Acceptance is the absolute key - at that moment you gain freedom and you gain power and you gain courage'

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Re: SYMBOLS !@#$%^&*()ABCDEFGHIJKJLNOPQRSTUVWXYZ [Re: a_h_w]
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interesting....

but i wonder how they chose the specific sound for what ever it was symbolizing.

maybe it just started off as a grunt.

or actually would the first sybols be like screams or moans?

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Re: SYMBOLS !@#$%^&*()ABCDEFGHIJKJLNOPQRSTUVWXYZ [Re: TameMe]
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I am really not sure, but as I am studying the hebrew alphabeth right now, it looks like it is the starting-letter of that word, as taurus means 'aleph' in hebrew.


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Though lovers be lost love shall not  And death shall have no dominion
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"Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men."Martin Luther King, Jr.
'Acceptance is the absolute key - at that moment you gain freedom and you gain power and you gain courage'

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Re: SYMBOLS !@#$%^&*()ABCDEFGHIJKJLNOPQRSTUVWXYZ [Re: BlueCoyote]
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of what word?

and what aleph or taurus mean?

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Re: SYMBOLS !@#$%^&*()ABCDEFGHIJKJLNOPQRSTUVWXYZ [Re: TameMe]
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BPR

FE

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MAN I wish I could explain this...

I bet my ass, I could have, face to face...

bah.. anyways.. fuck it! :smile:

"lfe is not hasty"
-Unknown :P

[You are, chosing to, being hasty, .. if so!]


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Re: SYMBOLS !@#$%^&*()ABCDEFGHIJKJLNOPQRSTUVWXYZ [Re: BlueCoyote]
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BlueCoyote said:
In ancient times, every symbol stood for somehting special.
Turn the A on its head, and you see a taurus, the original meaning of that letter. Somewhere I have written down all of them and their transormation from original symbols to letters...
I don't know, when the symbols did loose their meaning for things and stood only for vocals and consonants, but that happened of course, because you need much vewer symbols for much more words.




haha! yes!!!


dude,.. this is why so few/many understand me...

every symbol stand for something special!!!

:cool: :thumbup:


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Re: SYMBOLS !@#$%^&*()ABCDEFGHIJKJLNOPQRSTUVWXYZ [Re: TameMe]
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oh... thank you for making this thread TameME (meme?) :P

this is really ... ah.. it is making me speechless.. I love it!

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Re: SYMBOLS !@#$%^&*()ABCDEFGHIJKJLNOPQRSTUVWXYZ [Re: Gomp]
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like an artist, sculpt a rock..

some artist, remove the stone, covering the art, that is already there.. 
some artist, sculpt the stone, covering nothing, but more stone, they then form, as they want..




bah! I said fuck it, But I can not.. :P
ahahaha

symbols are like the way of the first artist ..  removing the "Vail" to view the art! rather than sculpting the "Vail" to be making the art.. :smile:

fuck it! :wink: :thumbup:

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Re: SYMBOLS !@#$%^&*()ABCDEFGHIJKJLNOPQRSTUVWXYZ [Re: TameMe]
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TameMe said:
of what word?

and what aleph or taurus mean?



Sorry,my english is sometimes mixed up, too :laugh:

Taurus=cow/ox//beef/rind, as the turned over A shows.
The word in hebrew for cow = aleph... That is the name for the first letter of alphabeth as well (in hebrew), as the first letter (of the word aleph) is a sounding aaaa :smile:
Later the greeks made alpha out of it, then the romans made our known A...


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Though lovers be lost love shall not  And death shall have no dominion
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"Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men."Martin Luther King, Jr.
'Acceptance is the absolute key - at that moment you gain freedom and you gain power and you gain courage'

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Re: SYMBOLS !@#$%^&*()ABCDEFGHIJKJLNOPQRSTUVWXYZ [Re: Gomp]
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There I understand you :smile:


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Though lovers be lost love shall not  And death shall have no dominion
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"Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men."Martin Luther King, Jr.
'Acceptance is the absolute key - at that moment you gain freedom and you gain power and you gain courage'

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Re: SYMBOLS !@#$%^&*()ABCDEFGHIJKJLNOPQRSTUVWXYZ [Re: BlueCoyote]
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wow....do you know the whole alphabet?

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Re: SYMBOLS !@#$%^&*()ABCDEFGHIJKJLNOPQRSTUVWXYZ [Re: TameMe]
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dreams being trasnslated into words, which became pictographs like egyptians used, then when people started to not pay as much attention to dreams they assigned symbols to words, then specifically sounds to simplify it, eventually we will move back to pictures, but that will probably not be in our lifetime


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Re: SYMBOLS !@#$%^&*()ABCDEFGHIJKJLNOPQRSTUVWXYZ [Re: TameMe]
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TameMe said:
wow....do you know the whole alphabet?



Not completely and there are some links still missing. I only have a very bad, almost not readable printout, as I need it for some different studies :laugh:
But here is the best I can tell now:
picture (egypt and sinaiian), hebrew name and translation, greek, roman

[between hebrew and greek, there is also phoenizian letter, I will leave out]

ox-head, Alef ox, Alpha, A
square, Bet house, Betha, B
looks like an L (camel hunch?), Gimel ?, Gamma, C and G
a fish but also an open door ?, Dalet fish/door, Delta, D
man with hand hold high, He man, Epsilon, E
a splitted hook/a stick with a circle on top, Waw hook, Ypsilon, F/V/Y
double-wave/double line, Zajin weapon (here the phoenizian letter is a sword), Zeta, Z
looks like some ladder, Chet ?, Eta, H
? , Tet ?, Theta, no roman letter
flat hand, Jod Hand, Iota, I and J
'rounded hand', Kaf open hand, Kappa, K
looks like a sheppards staff, Lamed 'the sting of an ox (?)', Lambda, L
waves, Mem water, My, M
snake and fish, Nun snake/fish, Ny, N
? , Samech ?, Xi and Chi, X
eye, Ajin eye, Omikron, O
an oval with very flat ends, Pe mouth, Pi, P
something loking like a lilly, Tsade ?, no greek and latin with this
something looking like an eight, Qoph ?, no greek, Q
I can't see that clearly but its round and strange-shaped, Resh head, Rho, R
one looks like a tower, the other like a W, Schin teeth, Sigma, S
a cross or a mark !, Taw ?, Tau, T


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Though lovers be lost love shall not  And death shall have no dominion
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"Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men."Martin Luther King, Jr.
'Acceptance is the absolute key - at that moment you gain freedom and you gain power and you gain courage'

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