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new supreme court nominee has never been a judge
    #4748620 - 10/03/05 11:22 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

that seems strange to me...

http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/10/03/scotus.miers/index.html

Bush picks White House counsel for Supreme Court
If confirmed, Harriet Miers would succeed O'Connor



Monday, October 3, 2005; Posted: 11:11 a.m. EDT (15:11 GMT)

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Bush nominated White House counsel Harriet Miers on Monday to replace retiring Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O'Connor.

Bush announced his choice in a televised Oval Office event saying, "For the past five years, Harriet Miers has served in critical roles in our nation's government."

He called on the Senate to "review her qualifications thoroughly and fairly and to vote on her nomination promptly."

Miers said she was grateful and humbled by the nomination. (Watch: Miers has no judicial experience -- 2:30)

"It is the responsibility of every generation to be true to the founders' vision of the proper role of the courts in our society," she said.

"If confirmed, I recognize that I will have a tremendous responsibility to keep our judicial system strong and to help ensure that the courts meet their obligations to strictly apply the laws and the Constitution." (Watch Bush nominate Miers to the Supreme Court -- 9:09)

If the Senate confirms Miers, she would join Ruth Bader Ginsburg as the second sitting female justice on the bench. O'Connor became the court's first female justice in 1981.
Dinner offer

Bush offered her the job Sunday night over dinner in the White House residence, White House sources said.

During the summer, a vetting process for Miers took place once the president began considering her.

Bush took seriously suggestions by Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Arlen Specter, R-Pennsylvania, and ranking Sen. Patrick Leahy, D-Vermont, that the president consider candidates from outside the appellate courts, the sources said.

Miers, 60, who has never been a judge, was the first woman to serve as president of the State Bar of Texas and Dallas Bar Association. She also was a member of the Dallas City Council. (Profile)

More recently, Miers helped lead the administration's search for potential candidates to fill Supreme Court posts.

At the same time, a White House official said that Bush considered her as a nominee without her knowledge.
Reacting with caution

Initial reaction to Miers' nomination was cautious. (Watch senators react to Miers' nomination -- 3:49)

"Harriet Miers is an intelligent lawyer who shares the president's judicial philosophy," said Leonard Leo of the conservative Federalist Society.

"She has demonstrated that in her capacity as White House counsel and a senior administration official as well as an active member of the organized bar."

Quietly, some conservatives involved in the White House's nominee selection consultation process said they are concerned with Bush's pick.

"The reaction of many conservatives today will be that the president has made possibly the most unqualified choice since Abe Fortas who had been the president's lawyer," said conservative activist Manuel Miranda of the Third Branch Conference, referring to President Lyndon B. Johnson's pick to the high court in the 1960s.

"The nomination of a nominee with no judicial record is a significant failure for the advisers that the White House gathered around it. However, the president deserves the benefit of a doubt, the nominee deserves the benefit of hearings, and every nominee deserves an up-or-down vote."

The Concerned Women for America, another conservative group, also took a wait-and-see approach on Miers.

"We give Harriet Miers the benefit of the doubt because thus far, President Bush has selected nominees to the federal courts who are committed to the written Constitution," said Jan LaRue, chief counsel of the group. "Whether we can support her will depend on what we learn from her record and the hearing process."

One Republican official said that many had expectations that Bush's pick would be a "known conservative," adding that he was surprised by the president's choice.

"Republicans were hoping for a clear conservative," the official said. "It's going to be heavy lifting for us and the White House."

Another conservative source who was involved in the selection consultation process said Miers was "not a big surprise" and that she had always been someone under serious consideration.

"She's a good conservative," the source said. "She does share the president's views about law and public policy. But she is not well-known, which is going to be part of the challenge."

A Democratic member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, Sen. Charles Schumer of New York, reacted cautiously to Miers' nomination but did not immediately oppose it.

"We know even less about Harriet Miers than we did about John Roberts and because this is the critical swing seat on the court, Americans will need to know a lot more about Miers' judicial philosophy and legal background before any vote for confirmation," Schumer said.
Pivotal replacement

The choice to replace O'Connor, a key swing vote, could be pivotal. (Full story)

The announcement came shortly before justices were to begin a new term with new Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts, who is the youngest member of the high court.

The term is expected to include rulings on several controversial cases, said Edward Lazarus, a Supreme Court legal analyst. (Case list)

"This is a situation where, from the very moment the justices start back up in October, they're going to be very divided," said Lazarus, who authored "Closed Chambers," a book on the justices. "It's going to be a lot of friction inside the building."

O'Connor announced her retirement in July. Bush initially chose Roberts for her seat, but the September 3 death of Chief Justice William Rehnquist changed the White House's strategy.

O'Connor has said she will stay on until she is replaced, making her role in the upcoming term unclear. Under court rules, a justice's vote does not count until a ruling is issued, a process that can take weeks or months. Officials have not said whether O'Connor will be on the bench Monday.

Many legal scholars question whether O'Connor would want to continue hearing cases if her replacement takes over before rulings are issued, thereby negating her vote.

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Re: new supreme court nominee has never been a judge [Re: afoaf]
    #4748631 - 10/03/05 11:26 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Sometimes I think it would be better if the Justices had no judging experience.


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Re: new supreme court nominee has never been a judge [Re: Redstorm]
    #4748645 - 10/03/05 11:35 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

maybe this thread should be locked.

I didnt' see lonestar's


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Re: new supreme court nominee has never been a judge [Re: afoaf]
    #4748669 - 10/03/05 11:44 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

The pick seems strange to me too.


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Re: new supreme court nominee has never been a judge [Re: lonestar2004]
    #4748695 - 10/03/05 11:56 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

I'm guessing that she just knows so fucking much that
Bush has to throw her a bone otherwise she's going public
with it!


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Re: new supreme court nominee has never been a judge [Re: afoaf]
    #4748730 - 10/03/05 12:06 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

(get out of jail free card?)


or Miers was picked to avoid a big fight with the Dems.


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Re: new supreme court nominee has never been a judge [Re: afoaf]
    #4748761 - 10/03/05 12:18 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

No paper trail. Very clever.


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Re: new supreme court nominee has never been a judge [Re: Jellric]
    #4748946 - 10/03/05 01:24 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

what record will we analyze?


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Re: new supreme court nominee has never been a judge [Re: lonestar2004]
    #4749050 - 10/03/05 01:56 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

lonestar2004 said:
(get out of jail free card?)


or Miers was picked to avoid a big fight with the Dems.



You don't think the Dems will put up a fight over someone with no experience?


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Re: new supreme court nominee has never been a judge [Re: afoaf]
    #4749267 - 10/03/05 02:51 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

I sure hope someone mentions during the confirmation hearings
that black eyeliner is a big no no this season...



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Re: new supreme court nominee has never been a judge [Re: Silversoul]
    #4749457 - 10/03/05 03:39 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Paradigm said:
Quote:

lonestar2004 said:
(get out of jail free card?)


or Miers was picked to avoid a big fight with the Dems.



You don't think the Dems will put up a fight over someone with no experience?




No.


I think the Fix is In.


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Re: new supreme court nominee has never been a judge [Re: afoaf]
    #4749871 - 10/03/05 05:12 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

She's very ugly.


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Re: new supreme court nominee has never been a judge [Re: bukkake]
    #4751504 - 10/03/05 10:44 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

This thread is pretty amusing. About a third of all the Supreme Court nominees were never judges including WILLIAM RHENQUISTt and EARL WARREN. Ever heard of these guys? This is pretty much a non-issue that people that has people who don't know US history or the judicial system up in arms.

Nice for CNN to have left that little bit of information out.


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Re: new supreme court nominee has never been a judge [Re: Divided_Sky]
    #4751551 - 10/03/05 10:55 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

are you serious!?

that's great, thank you.


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