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Supreme Court's Ginsburg says at New York lecture `any woman will not do'
    #4695564 - 09/22/05 04:32 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Supreme Court's Ginsburg says at New York lecture `any woman will not do'




By NAHAL TOOSI
Associated Press Writer

September 21, 2005, 10:17 PM EDT


NEW YORK -- Ruth Bader Ginsburg told an audience Wednesday that she doesn't like the idea of being the only female justice on the U.S. Supreme Court.

But in choosing to fill one of the two open positions on the court, "any woman will not do," she said.



http://www.newsday.com/news/local/wire/newyork/ny-bc-ny--ginsburg0921sep21,0,4227905.story?coll=ny-region-apnewyork







There are "some women who might be appointed who would not advance human rights or women's rights," Ginsburg told those gathered at the New York City Bar Association.

The retirement of Ginsburg's colleague Sandra Day O'Connor has fueled speculation about whether President Bush will nominate a woman to her position.

Federal Judge John G. Roberts originally was Bush's nominee for O'Connor's seat but now is facing a Senate vote on the position of chief justice, a role empty after the death of William H. Rehnquist.

Ginsburg stressed that the president should appoint a "fine jurist," adding that there are many women who fit that mold.

"I have a list of highly qualified women, but the president has not consulted me," Ginsburg said during a brief interview Wednesday night.

Ginsburg arrived in New York to attend an annual lecture named in her honor. The lecture's focus is on women and the law.

This year, Mary Robinson, former president of Ireland, delivered it, while Ginsburg participated in a question-and-answer session afterward.

During the session, which was attended by hundreds of people, Ginsburg defended some of the justices' references to laws in other countries when making decisions, a practice strongly opposed by some U.S. legislators. The justice said using foreign sources does not mean giving them superior status in deciding cases.

"I will take enlightenment wherever I can get it," she said. "I don't want to stop at a national boundary."

When reminded that Roberts has indicated he disagrees with the practice of referring to foreign laws, Ginsburg said it appeared he "is a man who does listen and is willing to learn."

Ginsburg, an associate justice since 1993, is the second woman named to the high court; the first was O'Connor. Ginsburg was a noted advocate of women's rights during her work as an attorney and is considered one of the more liberal Supreme Court justices.

Robinson, who also previously served as the U.N. high commissioner for human rights, now heads the group Realizing Rights: The Ethical Globalization Initiative.

She emphasized the importance of different groups' work in promoting human rights and said the United States has lost credibility on the subject, partly because of its detention facilities at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, and its "ambiguity" on the use of torture.


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America's debt problem is a "sign of leadership failure"

We have "reckless fiscal policies"

America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

Americans deserve better

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Re: Supreme Court's Ginsburg says at New York lecture `any woman will not do' [Re: lonestar2004]
    #4695572 - 09/22/05 04:33 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

"There are "some women who might be appointed who would not advance human rights or women's rights,"


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We have "reckless fiscal policies"

America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

Americans deserve better

Barack Obama


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Re: Supreme Court's Ginsburg says at New York lecture `any woman will not do' [Re: lonestar2004]
    #4695594 - 09/22/05 04:38 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

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lonestar2004 said:
"There are "some women who might be appointed who would not advance human rights or women's rights,"




Translated into English: There are some women who might be appointed who don't lean Left in their thinking.


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Re: Supreme Court's Ginsburg says at New York lecture `any woman will not do' [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #4695943 - 09/22/05 05:56 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

as if human and womyn's rights were just leftist ideas. Still, you may be right that the only people that care about human rights and the like are leftist, usually more left than what is called "the left".

Still, "the right" uses human rights concepts in its rhetoric even if it is deceptive/inconsistent/hypocritical.

Your statement was wholly ignorant of social reality and likewise a self-censoring, scoffing marginaliztion of human rights by the relegating of human rights to the already devalued notion of "leftism", thereby disrediting human rights de facto as your working understanding of leftism and the greater social reality has been distortedly defined by media and information industries.

genocide, democracy, freedom, et cetera are human rights issues.


Edited by kilgore_trout (09/22/05 06:46 PM)


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Re: Supreme Court's Ginsburg says at New York lecture `any woman will not do' [Re: kilgore_trout]
    #4696136 - 09/22/05 06:37 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

kilgore_trout said:


Your statement was wholly ignorant of social reality and likewise a self-censoring, scoffing marginaliztion of human rights by the relegating of human rights to the already devalued notion of "leftism", thereby disrediting human rights de facto as your working understanding of leftism and the greater social reality has been distortedly deinfe by media and information industries.

genocide, democracy, freedom, et cetera are human rights issues.






But Seriously.... Ginsberg is a crazy bitch and I hope a house falls on her.


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America's debt problem is a "sign of leadership failure"

We have "reckless fiscal policies"

America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

Americans deserve better

Barack Obama


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Re: Supreme Court's Ginsburg says at New York lecture `any woman will not do' [Re: kilgore_trout]
    #4696591 - 09/22/05 07:59 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

kilgore_trout said:


Your statement was wholly ignorant of social reality and likewise a self-censoring, scoffing marginaliztion of human rights by the relegating of human rights to the already devalued notion of "leftism", thereby disrediting human rights de facto as your working understanding of leftism and the greater social reality has been distortedly defined by media and information industries.






One of the most impressive examples of pseudo-deconstructionist bilge I have ever seen. You are to be applauded. Not everyone can produce such nonsense. Paradigm and Alex...whatever have nothing on you. Beautiful sentence structure too. You'll go far with your skills.


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Re: Supreme Court's Ginsburg says at New York lecture `any woman will not do' [Re: lonestar2004]
    #4698075 - 09/23/05 12:47 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)



Go Ann Go!


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From the Declaration of the Continental Congress

"We can have peace and security only as long as we band together to preserve that most priceless possession, our inheritance of European blood."
Charles A. Lindbergh,"Aviation, Geography, and Race", Reader's Digest, Nov. 1939

"We must secure the existance of our people and a future for White children."
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Re: Supreme Court's Ginsburg says at New York lecture `any woman will not do' [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #4700198 - 09/23/05 01:11 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

RandalFlagg said:
Quote:

lonestar2004 said:
"There are "some women who might be appointed who would not advance human rights or women's rights,"




Translated into English:  There are some women who might be appointed who don't lean Left in their thinking.




Translated into non-partisan English:  There are some women who might be appointed who would uphold the constitution rather than use the court to push their own personal agendas upon the American people.

I honestly do not care if a justice is left, right, middle, up, or down as long as they defend the constitution and do not try to legislate through the judicial system.  If they are doing their job, their personal and political beliefs shouldn't matter... too bad it isn't a perfect world.  :frown:


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Re: Supreme Court's Ginsburg says at New York lecture `any woman will not do' [Re: Seuss]
    #4700404 - 09/23/05 02:19 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

uphold the constitution????? who's Constitution?


Ginsberg:

"I will take enlightenment wherever I can get it," she said. "I don't want to stop at a national boundary."


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America's debt problem is a "sign of leadership failure"

We have "reckless fiscal policies"

America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

Americans deserve better

Barack Obama


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