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 EaTmEKiDs
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 How to sterilize with filter disk?!? 
#464673 - 11/20/01 03:21 PM (23 years, 22 days ago) |
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i am new to the filter discs and i was wondering how should i sterilze my cakes?
i don't have a pressure cooker or canner eithor
i was wonderin if i could boil them to sterilize the cakes, with the metal lids excluding the 4 holes in the lids and then put the oven on the lowest degree and quickly make the switch from the metal lids to the filter discs, but how would i inject the spores grrrrr help me plzzzzzzz
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NewbieShroomer
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 Re: How to sterilize with filter disk?!? [Re: EaTmEKiDs]
#464689 - 11/20/01 03:40 PM (23 years, 22 days ago) |
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Hmmm, I have never used filter discs, but I have read about them... And, I initially thought about purchasing some,
but my contam rate is so low, I think it would be a waste, for a NEW newbie however...
Why don't you go to where you purchased them at and ask?
And, I would imagine that you would use the filter discs instead of the metal lids, use TIN foil over that and boil
for an hour or so in a closed up pot...
Then, if you are worried about contams, leave your jars in a dark place for a few days, and if nothing has funny has grown, begin innoculation process///
But like I said, I have never been there, only read about it,
and even then not to much...
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Re: How to sterilize with filter disk?!? [Re: EaTmEKiDs]
#464732 - 11/20/01 04:31 PM (23 years, 22 days ago) |
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Just put tin foil over the filter discs on your cakes before you boil them....simple as that
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Re: How to sterilize with filter disk?!? [Re: EaTmEKiDs]
#464747 - 11/20/01 04:55 PM (23 years, 22 days ago) |
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I've use them, they are great. With no Cooker you have to use the flour/verm with Verm barrier though. Just put the filter and lid on. The filter under the lid (no holes) of course and screw them both on. Boil for however long you do. Let them cool, remove and band and lid. The heat should have kind of sealed the disk to your jar. if any water is beaded up on the disk just soak it up with a paper towel. Poke your syringe though the disk and inoculate under the verm barrier, cover with a new disk and seal them both on with your jar band. Keep in a humid pace as the air exchange will dry your jars out faster than if the top's were on. i recommend only using a single, central inoculation point of 3cc, 2cc at the least, more is welcome. you can use 4 like normal but the syringe poking though the disk near the side can unseal the disk and leave the jar exposed to air with only the verm barrier for a moment.
as you inoculate have the new disk ready, touching the needle as you draw it out so you can cover as quickly as posable this cuts contam down even further. re-sterilize the needle with paper towel socked in rubbing alcohol.
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Re: How to sterilize with filter disk?!? [Re: Scourge]
#465039 - 11/20/01 09:17 PM (23 years, 22 days ago) |
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I think that putting the lid on the jar over top of the filter disc is just an extra unneeded step...just throw a piece of foil over the top with a rubberband around it....I've had water droplets on my discs and I have yet to have any contam...then again I dont boil anything I spent the 4 dollars on the PC at Goodwill
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Re: How to sterilize with filter disk?!? [Re: DrAbeLincoln]
#465200 - 11/21/01 12:17 AM (23 years, 22 days ago) |
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you are probably right. I always PC too. If your gana put the lids on though i forgot, make sure you put them on up side down. if not the filter will stick to the lid instead of the jar.
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Re: How to sterilize with filter disk?!? [Re: EaTmEKiDs]
#465589 - 11/21/01 12:20 PM (23 years, 21 days ago) |
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i actually do this a lil different and it seems quite easy. i trace a lid onto the disc and cut it to size (can easily cut 2 to 4 at a time with scissors) and i place the lid on the jar as normal and the disk on top of that. sterilize then let cool. i remove the band and use oven flow tek and inject thru innoc holes without removing the metal lid and place filter and retaining band back on. if you cut the disks right (slightly larger than the lid) they stick right up in the band when you remove it. totally convenient and easy.
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maybe theres a tek out there to explain how to use it!
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