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OfflineB.I.O.
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more samui (pic)
    #445361 - 11/03/01 02:57 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

3 trays with samuiensis are fruiting....



i still doubt that they are the species that j. allen aka mj found in the 90ties...
they look more like mex to me just smaller...
BiO.


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Re: more samui (pic) [Re: B.I.O.]
    #445534 - 11/03/01 11:33 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

weak flush? or semi pre flush
.. I wish I had your lab...
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Re: more samui (pic) [Re: B.I.O.]
    #446449 - 11/04/01 10:29 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

They look great. I'm starting now with mexicana, so I can't help you about the ID.

Did you get the semperviva print Bio? I'm still waiting for a reply of the e-mails I sent you!

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Re: more samui (pic) [Re: B.I.O.]
    #446462 - 11/04/01 10:59 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Hi B.I.O.,

P. samuiensis is idirectly related to Psilocybe mexicana by microscopic taxonomy and is the only species found outside of Mexioco directly related to it.

As for what it looks lke in cultivation, who knows. Gartz nly grew six spoecimens after four months and another fiftheen later on.

I just collected about 80 or so prints which were first noticed by CHief Ill Eagles friend Nataya Borisnova in a rice field near the Muslim village of Hua Thanon, Koh Samui and then macroscopically i.d.ed by me a little later in the morning.

There are several people in the process of cultivation right now. Although this species microscopically resembles P. mexicana it macroscipcally resembles P. semilanceata. And is the only species directly related to P. mexicana found outside of Mexico.
In cultivation it might resemble P. mexicana and/or P. tampanensis.

I will off line and away for a few months but will maybe come and answer questions once in a while.

I remember someone saying they got a culture from Amsterdam or Holland so that means Gartz must have sent some from Leipzig University since only dried specimens were deposited and no one had any spores whatsoever.

The people at:
http:// petfungus.\.com

are selling spores they claim are P. samuiensis from Oregon whjich came from a field in Oregon owned by Thai people who brought their horses with them from Thailand. Well thats a bs story. the shroom grows in sandy manured soil in a tropical climate mixed with rich earth and the manure of Bubalis Bubauis, the Asian grey and/or Pink Buffalo and have only been found in rice paddies near the Muslim village of Hua Thanon.

Petfungus, after my complaining of their $69.00's a print for their alleged P. samuiensis price raised it to $169.00 per print.

The Ceo of this organization claimed that they based their identification on a picture of P. samuiensis from Paul Stamets Book, "Psilocybin Mushrooms of the World." A picture which I personally photographed.

Additionally, Workman grew their P. samuiensis and it turned out to be Stropharia (Psilocybe) semiglobata. Which is also on the P. samuiensis page in Stamets' book.

For those who want to view this species of P. samuiensis there are several threads posted in the mushroom hunting forum at the shroomery.

Mj


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Re: more samui (pic) [Re: mjshroomer]
    #446484 - 11/04/01 12:08 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

hi mj....

i nearly thought that they are some weired kind of mexicana...just a lil smaller ...i picked 20 shrooms so far
and more are coming...can i send you a print for closer identification? (PM me please).......new pics with wavy caps are coming soon...

BTW...also the zapotec are pinning...never saw them before...
im working pretty much on grasslandspecies, with mainfocus on semilanceata...

catch up soon!!!

BiO.


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Re: more samui (pic) [Re: B.I.O.]
    #446515 - 11/04/01 12:47 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

"BTW...also the zapotec are pinning..."

That sound great Bio, can you shoot some photos, I could help you to id them for sure. When I was in Mexico I saw many pins. The most important thing is that the stems should be scaly (sollten einer Art Zungen haben). Zapotecorum turn almost black and not only blue when injured.
I hope you keep us informed...

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Re: more samui (pic) [Re: Elektrolurch]
    #449872 - 11/07/01 04:32 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

electrolurch, and b.i.o, pm me about what you are doi9ng as far as zapotecs goes.
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Re: more samui (pic) [Re: azurescen]
    #450394 - 11/07/01 05:05 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

best pics are coming soon....the caps are getting so wavy before spores mature.....a very special strain!!!

BiO.


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    #450983 - 11/07/01 11:49 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

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