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Re: The dangers of shooting heroin [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #4340375 - 06/26/05 08:33 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

Title reads

"The dangers of shooting heroin"

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Re: The dangers of shooting heroin [Re: onetime]
    #4340376 - 06/26/05 08:34 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

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onetime said:
"good heroin" is only 7% pure




This is NOT what I was looking for, as it appears to be averaged (and outdated). Regardless, the lowest level of purity is still more than double what you say is "good heroin".

http://www.ncjrs.org/ondcppubs/publications/policy/ndcs00/chap2_4.html


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Re: The dangers of shooting heroin [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #4340377 - 06/26/05 08:34 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

wow i dont know where that is in the usa?? every country besideds the usa will always have better drugs


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Re: The dangers of shooting heroin [Re: onetime]
    #4340393 - 06/26/05 08:37 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

The article I had read explained how they took samples of bags of street dope (retail) from all over the country and analyzed the purity. Camden (NJ) had the overall purest shit... over 70%. Next was Philly with 60 some percent. The worst was San Francisco, with a measley 12%.


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Re: The dangers of shooting heroin [Re: onetime]
    #4340426 - 06/26/05 08:48 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

Trends in Heroin Purity at Four Purchase Levels (% by weight)
Year < 1 gram 1 - 10 grams 10 - 200 grams > 200 grams
1981 8 9 21 32
1982 11 13 27 52
1983 22 18 33 53
1984 26 26 41 60
1985 25 29 44 57
1986 26 28 37 51
1987 27 29 35 53
1988 32 33 47 64
1989 38 38 56 71
1990 29 31 42 62
1991 31 30 49 65
1992 37 38 55 73
1993 42 42 62 77
1994 44 45 59 74
1995 46 46 63 77
1996 37 43 55 71
1997 42 43 62 78
1998 41 45 60 76
1999 41 43 60 76
2000 42 46 63 78
2001 38 42 62 71
2002 39 41 58 72



so with bags that are less than 1 gram its 40% pure but thats 100$ for one gram most junkies get 10$ bags so i am sure its cut even more but yeah its probly a bit more than 7% as i stated eriler but for the average user its gotta be around 10-20% most dont buy 100$ at once


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Re: The dangers of shooting heroin [Re: onetime]
    #4340447 - 06/26/05 08:54 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

substantial air must enter the blood stream to be fatal.
a few bubbles in a syringe is not particularly dangerous.
ive inquired at the hospital when i spotted a doctor inject a soulution with some tiny bubbles


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Re: The dangers of shooting heroin [Re: onetime]
    #4340495 - 06/26/05 09:09 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

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onetime said:
Trends in Heroin Purity at Four Purchase Levels (% by weight)
Year < 1 gram 1 - 10 grams 10 - 200 grams > 200 grams
1981 8 9 21 32
1982 11 13 27 52
1983 22 18 33 53
1984 26 26 41 60
1985 25 29 44 57
1986 26 28 37 51
1987 27 29 35 53
1988 32 33 47 64
1989 38 38 56 71
1990 29 31 42 62
1991 31 30 49 65
1992 37 38 55 73
1993 42 42 62 77
1994 44 45 59 74
1995 46 46 63 77
1996 37 43 55 71
1997 42 43 62 78
1998 41 45 60 76
1999 41 43 60 76
2000 42 46 63 78
2001 38 42 62 71
2002 39 41 58 72








Very cool... it's interesting (however predictable) to see what happens to the purity as the bag size gets smaller.


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Re: The dangers of shooting heroin [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #4340505 - 06/26/05 09:13 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

the thing that gets me that they sell "cuts" at head shops out here they have simple lables and dont say any thing that they could be used for other than a "filler" althought they do also sell pure caffine powder and used to selll pure ephedrein powder too


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Re: The dangers of shooting heroin [Re: gdman]
    #4340511 - 06/26/05 09:15 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

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Shooting air into your vein will put you in serious danger.




Not really. I have had several small air bubbles go in my vein while on an IV in the hospital. Nurses said it was no big deal.

She said it would take a whole syringe full of air to do you any damage.


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no [Re: niteowl]
    #4340535 - 06/26/05 09:20 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

no


Edited by finding_self (04/20/06 05:01 PM)


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Re: The dangers of shooting heroin [Re: finding_self]
    #4340544 - 06/26/05 09:23 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

nice


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Re: The dangers of shooting heroin [Re: Learyfan]
    #4340627 - 06/26/05 09:43 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

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A small air bubble seems like something that could slip into a syringe very easily.









and it is. but it is common practice to thump the syringe right after sucking it out of the spoon to get the air bubbles to rise and subsequenty shoot them out. a minute amount of air (smaller then you can get out) left in a 1cc syringe has never harmed me, and I believe it is infact pretty harmless.

probably the only time you could easily fuck it up is when registering or reregistering a vein (pulling out slightly to check for slow bloodflow to ensure you're still in a vein). if you have either missed your vein or it has come out, air will escape into the syringe which needs to be gotten out.

shooting into a muscle seems retarded. He must have been really fucked up and not had any friends to help him. Either that or he was trying for a really fucking hard/deep vein. I have always gone for veins that you can easily see through the skin and are pretty large. I'll probably never miss this way. a 1/2 inch needle that i use will go into the skin about halfway and i can feel it enter the vein. out of all the hits ive ever taken, I've only missed slightly once when the needle came out and a small amount started forming a blister under the skin


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Re: The dangers of shooting heroin [Re: fearfect]
    #4340647 - 06/26/05 09:48 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

:projectile:

Reading that makes my stomach turn.  I am NOT good with needles.  Thanks, though.  That answers the air bubble question.  It explains why you see people flick syringes before they inject the needle, also.






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Re: The dangers of shooting heroin [Re: fearfect]
    #4340768 - 06/26/05 10:22 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

Wow. That was really informative and also gross. It actually made me shiver.


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Re: The dangers of shooting heroin [Re: gdman]
    #4340789 - 06/26/05 10:32 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

Shooting air into your vein will put you in serious danger.

Shooting air into your ARTERY will put you in serious danger. You can shoot quite a bit of air into your vein without any damage.


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Re: The dangers of shooting heroin [Re: Diploid]
    #4340816 - 06/26/05 10:42 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

Where does the vein connect to? LoL. I have got a better solution that will solve all of these. Do not put syringes in your body unless done by a professional. Thats just my opionon. Keep to the organic drugs, much safer, if there is such a thing with drugs.


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Re: The dangers of shooting heroin [Re: prefloppro]
    #4340845 - 06/26/05 10:52 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

Where does the vein connect to?

All venous circulation travels to the lungs before reaching any capillaries, especially in the brain. In the lungs, a bubble will become blocked at the alveolar-capillary complex and diffuse into your exhaled breath.

However, a bubble in the arterial circulation will eventually reach and be blocked by a capillary where diffusion of the gas cannot occur.

If this blockage occurs in, say, a muscle, that part of the muscle will die from lack of circulation. This is a big problem as it can become infected and the infection can spread.

If the bubble reaches a capillary in the brain, it will block blood flow to that part of the brain and result in a seizure, stroke, brain damage, or even death.

Summary: several cc of air in a vein is not a problem, one tiny bubble of air in an artery can kill you.


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Re: The dangers of shooting heroin [Re: Diploid]
    #4340968 - 06/26/05 11:35 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

shooting heroin into your muscles will do little more than make you frustrated from wasting a hit. I seriously doubt that this guy missing his vein is what caused his kidneys to fail, what did cause the failure i cannot tell you, but i can say with confidence that it wasnt because he missed a vein.


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