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Legal Ethnos Worth Trying?
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I see sites selling numerous different ethnos which I have never heard of before in my life. I try to read descriptions of what they do, but I am always left wondering. What are some legal ethnos worth trying without paying an arm and a leg for? Salvia is  :thumbup: Any others? Is kratom any good? Thanks guys :smile:


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Re: Legal Ethnos Worth Trying? [Re: Mighty Bop]
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i havent tried it yet, but i'd go with a san pedro cutting if i were you.


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Re: Legal Ethnos Worth Trying? [Re: Mighty Bop]
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san pedro and some of the other tricho cacti are the best legal ones. Also some of the seeds that have lsa in them are alright. Those sites do not have descriptions of effects because they mainly sell those things for novelty use and not for human consumption :smile:

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Re: Legal Ethnos Worth Trying? [Re: nightkrawler]
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I did an extraction with pedro one time. That was the worst tasting stuff I have ever, EVER had. Didn't do too much either, until we smoked some mj and then it seemed to work a little. I am reading more about Kratom and it seems like the real deal :thumbup:


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Re: Legal Ethnos Worth Trying? [Re: Blu Spore]
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i dont know about LSA. i really liked it at first, then i realized if you want to have a decently hard trip, you need to eat a lot, and the side effects arent worth it in my opinion. i want to fall asleep more than anything about half way through the trip.

maybe you didnt take a high enough dose Mighty Bop?


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Re: Legal Ethnos Worth Trying? [Re: nightkrawler]
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Not sure about my does. Probably not enough. I'm sure I followed a recipe somewhere. I have tried morning glories as well. Never again though. It was hard chewing the seeds, had a stomach ache the whole night along with horrible projectile vomiting. I would never recommend these things!!! I think I might order some kratom :smile:


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Re: Legal Ethnos Worth Trying? [Re: Mighty Bop]
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KRATOM IS AWESOME....it is probably going to go illegal soon that is my legal of choice the tea isn't that good so try to have some pill capsules handy. Salvia D works can't believe its not illegal the way the things are going, umm morning glory if u like to puke but still worth a try IMHO just don't be stupid please and read up on them cause i don't want to read another article about how some kid got some morning glories from walmart and ate them and went to the hospital because he/she thought they were dieing. *shit got a stomach ache got to go to the hospital*


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Re: Legal Ethnos Worth Trying? [Re: Mighty Bop]
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Mighty Bop said:
Not sure about my does. Probably not enough. I'm sure I followed a recipe somewhere. I have tried morning glories as well. Never again though. It was hard chewing the seeds, had a stomach ache the whole night along with horrible projectile vomiting. I would never recommend these things!!! I think I might order some kratom :smile:

i recommend a coffee grinder.


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Re: Legal Ethnos Worth Trying? [Re: Mighty Bop]
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well with the morning glories you gotta crush em up and put them in some kind of food. i almost puked while i was chewing up last time cause i was too lazy to crush em. never eating them whole again. you should also take ginger beforehand to eliminate the nausea with morning glories, i've only heard good things about that. i've never taken ginger first, but i just bought some like a week ago, next time i do morning glories(which probably won't be too soon) i'll test out the ginger.

you seem to have your mind set on kratom anyway, i've never had any experience with it. my boss told me that kava kava is really trippy the first couple times you do it, but once again, i don't know much about it.


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Re: Legal Ethnos Worth Trying? [Re: GNIOM1498]
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GNIOM1498 said:
KRATOM IS AWESOME....it is probably going to go illegal soon that is my legal of choice the tea isn't that good so try to have some pill capsules handy. Salvia D works can't believe its not illegal the way the things are going, umm morning glory if u like to puke but still worth a try IMHO just don't be stupid please and read up on them cause i don't want to read another article about how some kid got some morning glories from walmart and ate them and went to the hospital because he/she thought they were dieing. *shit got a stomach ache got to go to the hospital*


So you say just measure out the dose, then put them in pills ay? I thought making the tea was the best way since it extracts the good stuff?


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Re: Legal Ethnos Worth Trying? [Re: Mighty Bop]
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no pills will work tea is really not that strong well if u use a tea bag it isn't I have eatten the powder which works but sucks because ur eating powder.:projectile:  I have made a tea without a tea bage which was the best but drinking the shit towards the end sucked.  Tea bag was tolerable but not as strong as w/o.  Never tried pills yet but thats what I would do.  :pill2: :thumbup:


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Re: Legal Ethnos Worth Trying? [Re: Mighty Bop]
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Take my following advise with caution, but eh, anyway.

Syrian rue is the most intense legal ethno I've yet tried. It's like an extremely weird and most definitely unique hallucinogen. It tastes like shit, but the experience is one to remember.

I've gotten some effects off of kratom and salvia also. Salvia's rather uncomfortable though interesting, and kratom is mildly interesting, rather relaxing like being slightly drunk and stoned.

I've tried a plethora of other enthos to no affect: Damiana, Mexican terragon, kanna, sacred lotus stamens, scullcap, probably a shitload of other ones. I'm receiving a new shipment of ethnos soon, among them Ayurvedic HBWR seeds, wormwood oil, liquid kava extract, and salu henbane. If any of them are especially interesting, I'll make a post or such.


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Re: Legal Ethnos Worth Trying? [Re: Ravus]
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So you say Syrian Rue by itself then? I know you can combine it with another ethno to make an ayahuasca-like combo. I have heard that rue by itself does something. Care to go into a little more detail? I am interested. Did you have seeds?


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Re: Legal Ethnos Worth Trying? [Re: Mighty Bop]
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Whatever you do, don't mix it with kratom.

I know you're interested in thom, but I heard that mix is trouble, don't use it when on MAO-is of any kind.


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Re: Legal Ethnos Worth Trying? [Re: gdman]
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I'm not one for mixing things unless they are supposed to be mixed (ie. p.viridis and b.caapi) :smile:


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Re: Legal Ethnos Worth Trying? [Re: Mighty Bop]
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Rue by itself is very interesting. Obviously it's even more interesting when you combine with psilocybin or LSD, but even rue by itself produces extremely vivid visuals, both open eye and closed eye. Open eye your vision becomes wave-like as translucent ripples roll from everything, and if you move your hand to the side of your vision you get the most insane trails ever. You can actually see trails a few seconds behind a person at high doses. Closed eyes, I saw vivid scenes of Egyptian pharaohs and pyramids, most anything I thought of would appear. Mentally it's pretty crazy also, like the way pot makes your thoughts shift except combined with a touch of delerium and a loss of reality.

Be safe though, you don't want to combine an MAOI with something that would harm you. I recommend looking it up on Erowid.

Also, ayahuasca is legal to purchase, if you wanted to throw down the money to get some caapi and jurema or such. I have yet to try caapi due to rue being much cheaper, but I hear it's superior in some respects to rue (though not in price or potency, rue is much cheaper per dose).


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Re: Legal Ethnos Worth Trying? [Re: Ravus]
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Yeah I read a lot of rue reports last night and it seems like most people didn't like it because of the associated nausea. Although they were saying they definitely were tripping. I do plan on making some ayahuasca someday, the traditional caapi/viridis way :thumbup:


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Re: Legal Ethnos Worth Trying? [Re: Mighty Bop]
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Indeed, the main two problems with rue are the nausea and the taste. The taste is rather horrendous, and the nausea can be annoying when you want to explore. However, the experience itself is definitely pretty amazing.


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Re: Legal Ethnos Worth Trying? [Re: Ravus]
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Hehe I just wouldn't want morning glory to happen all over again!!


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