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OfflineHerbanShaman
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Can a normal flourescent work - or must the bulb be full spectrum?
    #4069417 - 04/18/05 07:02 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Can one fruit mushrooms with an non-grow flourescent bulb? If so what species? Will chanterelle, or chicken of the forest react or do they need full spectrum light. I need a good answer if anyone has experimented with this. If not, does anyone have a link to a really small 12" flourescent. The bulb now is just a normal kitchen type flourecent bulb, and only about 1 centimeter in diameter. A link would be highly apprecieated and warrant a rating ^_~.


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Re: Can a normal flourescent work - or must the bulb be full spectrum? [Re: HerbanShaman]
    #4069424 - 04/18/05 07:04 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

yes, any light will work. You will not notice a difference between the full spectrumn and regular lights


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Re: Can a normal flourescent work - or must the bulb be full spectrum? [Re: tahoe]
    #4069433 - 04/18/05 07:05 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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yes, any light will work.




Aye, just make sure not to use direct UV light for too long.


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Re: Can a normal flourescent work - or must the bulb be full spectrum? [Re: Tudik]
    #4069446 - 04/18/05 07:06 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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Tudik said:
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yes, any light will work.




Aye, just make sure not to use direct UV light for too long.



why not? do you have a tanning bed bulb handy?


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Re: Can a normal flourescent work - or must the bulb be full spectrum? [Re: Tudik]
    #4069453 - 04/18/05 07:08 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Tahoe, in your quest to debunk myths you have helped yet another soul. You should add that to your list. Does anyone want to contest these guys assertion? Otherwise, I'll try it myself.


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Re: Can a normal flourescent work - or must the bulb be full spectrum? [Re: HerbanShaman]
    #4069471 - 04/18/05 07:12 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

whatever i can do to help, Where did you come up with that nick? There used to be an herban shaman about 8 years ago


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Re: Can a normal flourescent work - or must the bulb be full spectrum? [Re: tahoe]
    #4069560 - 04/18/05 07:39 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I've got three tubs going with three different kinds of light and I've experimented a bit with rotating the lights and the difference is not noticable to me.


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Re: Can a normal flourescent work - or must the bulb be full spectrum? [Re: Libertycapper]
    #4069685 - 04/18/05 08:12 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

what myth was debunked? Nobody disagreed with tahoe, but i would imagine excessive UV radiation could cause mutations, thats probably all tudik was saying. I don't mean to undercut tahoe at all but this question gets asked at least once a month


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Re: Can a normal flourescent work - or must the bulb be full spectrum? [Re: LengthyFellow]
    #4070171 - 04/18/05 09:58 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I wasn't refering to Tudik's comment. In general readings I have sampled many sources say that flourescent bulbs don't produce the wavelengths that induce fruiting in some species. I would actually thing broad sprectrum bulbs produce a lot more UV than standard bulbs. OK, as to my name it refers partly to my Indian heritage (I'm half Fox Nation) and partly to my religious and spiritual beliefs. It was an old nickname that I got from my wildcrafting habits and its stuck over the years (usually just Shaman). Hope this helps explain things and clarify my identity a bit.


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Re: Can a normal flourescent work - or must the bulb be full spectrum? [Re: HerbanShaman]
    #4070349 - 04/18/05 10:55 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

>I have sampled many sources say that flourescent bulbs don't produce the wavelengths that induce fruiting in some species.

Please show me such readings. I certainly hope they are not on the shroomery. It is well known that flouros and compact flouros work just great, theres no need for full spectrum. I've seen mention of full spectrum being better, but none that say flouros done produce blue wavelengths.


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Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: Can a normal flourescent work - or must the bulb be full spectrum? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4070383 - 04/18/05 11:02 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Any lights will work fine.


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Re: Can a normal flourescent work - or must the bulb be full spectrum? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4070388 - 04/18/05 11:03 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

can i use a black light to fruit mushies?? i would think this would work nicely because it is rich in blue/ violet light


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Re: Can a normal flourescent work - or must the bulb be full spectrum? [Re: xpaciscool]
    #4070394 - 04/18/05 11:04 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Black light will cause mutations.


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Re: Can a normal flourescent work - or must the bulb be full spectrum? [Re: xpaciscool]
    #4070405 - 04/18/05 11:07 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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xpaciscool said:
can i use a black light to fruit mushies?? i would think this would work nicely because it is rich in blue/ violet light




UV lighting has caused mutations. And I believe UV breaks down psilocybin. Doesnt seem like the best thing to do. Any white light, especially a flouro, will put out plenty of blue spectrum. Flouros do so at a cooler temp to which is what makes them so grand.


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Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: Can a normal flourescent work - or must the bulb be full spectrum? [Re: HerbanShaman]
    #4070469 - 04/18/05 11:26 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

If you want a fluorescent that is especially heavy in the blues, get a marine-glo from pet smart.




It has my cakes pinning on day 6 since birth and they received zero light during incubation. I hear any light bulb above the fruiting chamber is enough though.


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Re: Can a normal flourescent work - or must the bulb be full spectrum? [Re: PowerTrip]
    #4070504 - 04/18/05 11:33 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

just thought i'd put this up for comparison...notice that the "regular" (incandescent) light still emits the blue spectrum, it is just less intense relative to the red



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Re: Can a normal flourescent work - or must the bulb be full spectrum? [Re: PowerTrip]
    #4070604 - 04/18/05 11:53 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

The light issue, is not that big an ISSUE in shroom cult.

Shrooms are not POT.

Eyeball these little inexpensive very EFFECTIVE light bulbs.

Timer 12/12 on/off in pinning stage.
Reduced to 8 on 16 off in fruiting stage.


13 watt compact screw in fluro


7 watt incandesent (exterior Cristmass type)


One single bulb in set ups like this.

SOME RESULTS BELOW
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Re: Can a normal flourescent work - or must the bulb be full spectrum? [Re: agar]
    #4070679 - 04/19/05 12:08 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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Timer 12/12 on/off in pinning stage.
Reduced to 8 on 16 off in fruiting stage.




May I ask why you suggest lowering the amount of light during the fruiting stage?


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Re: Can a normal flourescent work - or must the bulb be full spectrum? [Re: PowerTrip]
    #4070685 - 04/19/05 12:09 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Growth is better during the dark, they get bigger, and thicker, quicker.


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Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: Can a normal flourescent work - or must the bulb be full spectrum? [Re: PowerTrip]
    #4070689 - 04/19/05 12:10 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Because once the pinset is developed and the fruiting has started, there's no other reason for light than to orient the mushies. Leaving the light on longer will only dry out your casings...


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