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a Mind Blowing phenom
    #3984337 - 03/29/05 06:23 AM (19 years, 5 days ago)

SALVIA holy shnikeys man....I had no idea. I've been reading up on it for like a month, but it always sounded too good to be true. I'm really into deep thinking about what and why existence and reality really are. Last night bought some Salvia 10X extract. I smoked it out of my huge Zong, and seriously I have never been affected by a drug the way I was affected by salvia. It is the first drug I've done that really blew my mind. I mean shrooms blow my mind, but no matter what you do, you always know that you are tripping on shrooms. With Salvia it was this HARDCORE violent rebirthing. I had my first taste of Nirvana, I had the first moment in my life without thought, withouth any senses or thought. It was so amazing. AFter the moment of nothingness came this rebirth of all of my senses. it was seriously the first time I had ever used my body. It was like reformating a hard drive to a computer, where everything was completle erased in the few seconds of nothingness. INcredible...the fact that I can buy this drug at a store less than one block from my house just blows my mind.

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Re: a Mind Blowing phenom [Re: jtop11]
    #3984349 - 03/29/05 06:36 AM (19 years, 5 days ago)

Congratulations on your experience, I hope to have at least one before I die.  :smirk:


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Re: a Mind Blowing phenom [Re: jtop11]
    #3984350 - 03/29/05 06:41 AM (19 years, 5 days ago)

That's exactly how I Felt. It was like I had to learn how to use my body and all my senses again. Very incredible experience.

I don't recall exactly happened DURING the experience, btw. This sensory rebirth came after I started to come down. But it was unbelievable none the less.


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Re: a Mind Blowing phenom [Re: freddurgan]
    #3984519 - 03/29/05 08:44 AM (19 years, 4 days ago)

haha yeah its fucking impossible to prepare for a breakthrough.. im still shellshocked a few weeks later. I didnt really remember the trip so much at first but Ive actually had several flashbacks from the experience.. its nuts

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Re: a Mind Blowing phenom [Re: bixo]
    #3984585 - 03/29/05 09:27 AM (19 years, 4 days ago)

iv never lost complete touch of reality as much as with sally (even with LSD, i mean the visuals were much more intense) but sally made me completely lost touch with reality, like bixo i dont remember much but flashs of like 10-20 seconds all i remember is running to my bed because i felt like pieces of my body were breaking away and floating off into the air, and some bits after that.


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Re: a Mind Blowing phenom [Re: jtop11]
    #3985605 - 03/29/05 01:41 PM (19 years, 4 days ago)

excellent!
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Re: a Mind Blowing phenom [Re: jtop11]
    #3985647 - 03/29/05 01:49 PM (19 years, 4 days ago)

Niravan is not without senses and thought. it means freedom from attachment to sense objects and thoughts. The experience you had was tantammount to smashing yourself over the head with an iron bar, in fact that way would have been much cheaper for you. That was not an experience of enlightenment, only an experinece of concioussness devoid of operations and stimuli.


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Re: a Mind Blowing phenom [Re: jtop11]
    #3985676 - 03/29/05 01:55 PM (19 years, 4 days ago)

I'm planning to take some salvia tincture in the near future...


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Re: a Mind Blowing phenom [Re: SkorpivoMusterion]
    #3985839 - 03/29/05 02:35 PM (19 years, 4 days ago)

Salvia is cool because its like the end of the road. At least for me. Its like..whatever it is that I'm looking for, I just pasted it. So..that gives me a target zone. Somewhere between here and salvia.

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Re: a Mind Blowing phenom [Re: egghead1]
    #3985987 - 03/29/05 03:29 PM (19 years, 4 days ago)

yes, nirvana is something all together different. it is the extinguishing of all karma - good and bad and all inbetween. one does not "experience nirvana" - nirvana is not an experience nor something to be obtained nor is it a state of consciousness.

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Re: a Mind Blowing phenom [Re: SkorpivoMusterion]
    #3985992 - 03/29/05 03:31 PM (19 years, 4 days ago)

tincture...
painful mouth burn & little effect.

just smoke some extract.

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Re: a Mind Blowing phenom [Re: Vvellum]
    #3989263 - 03/30/05 07:21 AM (19 years, 4 days ago)

I'm sorry for offending you by using the word nirvana...it's one of those things where there really isn't a word that's been conjured up to describe what I felt, and anyone telling me what I did or did not feel is no more right than I would be trying to explain it. Lets just remember that everything is subjective and for you to tell me what I did or did not feel or experience is proposterous.

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Re: a Mind Blowing phenom [Re: jtop11]
    #3989541 - 03/30/05 09:40 AM (19 years, 3 days ago)

...then why use a word that has been used for thousands of years to describe "something" specific? why not use your creativity and imagination and come up with something original to describe your experience? I am sorry - but you did not "experience" nirvana. you do not experience nirvana nor can you "taste" nirvana nor does one "come back from" nirvana...

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Main Entry: nir?va?na
Pronunciation: nir-'v?-n&, (")n&r-
Function: noun
Usage: often capitalized
Etymology: Sanskrit nirvAna, literally, act of extinguishing, from nis- out + vAti it blows -- more at WIND
1 : the final beatitude that transcends suffering, karma, and samsara and is sought especially in Buddhism through the extinction of desire and individual consciousness




there is nothing "proposterous" about using language correctly and being aware of the meaning of words.

If I hit a golfball really far, I do not say "I hit a homerun."

Edited by bi0 (03/30/05 09:51 AM)

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Re: a Mind Blowing phenom [Re: Vvellum]
    #3989723 - 03/30/05 10:38 AM (19 years, 3 days ago)

Uhm isn't nirvana then basically just ego-death?

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Re: a Mind Blowing phenom [Re: cybrbeast]
    #3989978 - 03/30/05 11:53 AM (19 years, 3 days ago)

Gee...I'm really sorry that I didn't put that much effort into a post on shroomery.org....get a life man.

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Re: a Mind Blowing phenom [Re: jtop11]
    #3991102 - 03/30/05 03:33 PM (19 years, 3 days ago)

I'm saying that if it's ego-death then that's a common theme in heavy Salvia trips. At least in my ones. Well maybe not ego-death bet surely ego-loss which could be ego-death if the dose was boosted.

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Re: a Mind Blowing phenom [Re: cybrbeast]
    #3991165 - 03/30/05 03:49 PM (19 years, 3 days ago)

That entirely depends on your definition of 'ego'


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Re: a Mind Blowing phenom [Re: egghead1]
    #3991231 - 03/30/05 04:03 PM (19 years, 3 days ago)

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Niravan is not without senses and thought. it means freedom from attachment to sense objects and thoughts.



Have you ever tried Salvia in a high dose? Objects mean nothing and you won't even know what thoughts are. You will just be.

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Re: a Mind Blowing phenom [Re: cybrbeast]
    #3991512 - 03/30/05 05:04 PM (19 years, 3 days ago)

I know EXACTLY what you are talking about. the concept of things existing isn't even present.

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Re: a Mind Blowing phenom [Re: jtop11]
    #3991627 - 03/30/05 05:44 PM (19 years, 3 days ago)

Makes you question the reasoning behind some of our laws....

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