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Newsnight Report: Secret US plans for Iraq's oil
    #3935105 - 03/18/05 12:28 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

This looks rather interesting..

Secret US plans for Iraq's oil


By Greg Palast
Reporting for Newsnight

The Bush administration made plans for war and for Iraq's oil before the 9/11 attacks, sparking a policy battle between neo-cons and Big Oil, BBC's Newsnight has revealed.

Iraqi-born Falah Aljibury says US Neo-Conservatives planned to force a coup d'etat in Iraq
Two years ago today - when President George Bush announced US, British and Allied forces would begin to bomb Baghdad - protesters claimed the US had a secret plan for Iraq's oil once Saddam had been conquered.

In fact there were two conflicting plans, setting off a hidden policy war between neo-conservatives at the Pentagon, on one side, versus a combination of "Big Oil" executives and US State Department "pragmatists".

"Big Oil" appears to have won. The latest plan, obtained by Newsnight from the US State Department was, we learned, drafted with the help of American oil industry consultants.

Insiders told Newsnight that planning began "within weeks" of Bush's first taking office in 2001, long before the September 11th attack on the US.

We saw an increase in the bombing of oil facilities and pipelines [in Iraq] built on the premise that privatisation is coming

Mr Falah Aljibury
An Iraqi-born oil industry consultant, Falah Aljibury, says he took part in the secret meetings in California, Washington and the Middle East. He described a State Department plan for a forced coup d'etat.

Mr Aljibury himself told Newsnight that he interviewed potential successors to Saddam Hussein on behalf of the Bush administration.

Secret sell-off plan

The industry-favoured plan was pushed aside by a secret plan, drafted just before the invasion in 2003, which called for the sell-off of all of Iraq's oil fields. The new plan was crafted by neo-conservatives intent on using Iraq's oil to destroy the Opec cartel through massive increases in production above Opec quotas.

Former Shell Oil USA chief stalled plans to privatise Iraq's oil industry
The sell-off was given the green light in a secret meeting in London headed by Ahmed Chalabi shortly after the US entered Baghdad, according to Robert Ebel.

Mr Ebel, a former Energy and CIA oil analyst, now a fellow at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington, told Newsnight he flew to the London meeting at the request of the State Department.

Mr Aljibury, once Ronald Reagan's "back-channel" to Saddam, claims that plans to sell off Iraq's oil, pushed by the US-installed Governing Council in 2003, helped instigate the insurgency and attacks on US and British occupying forces.

"Insurgents used this, saying, 'Look, you're losing your country, you're losing your resources to a bunch of wealthy billionaires who want to take you over and make your life miserable,'" said Mr Aljibury from his home near San Francisco.

"We saw an increase in the bombing of oil facilities, pipelines, built on the premise that privatisation is coming."

Privatisation blocked by industry

Philip Carroll, the former CEO of Shell Oil USA who took control of Iraq's oil production for the US Government a month after the invasion, stalled the sell-off scheme.

Mr Carroll told us he made it clear to Paul Bremer, the US occupation chief who arrived in Iraq in May 2003, that: "There was to be no privatisation of Iraqi oil resources or facilities while I was involved."

Amy Jaffee says oil companies fear a privatisation would exclude foreign firms
Ariel Cohen, of the neo-conservative Heritage Foundation, told Newsnight that an opportunity had been missed to privatise Iraq's oil fields.

He advocated the plan as a means to help the US defeat Opec, and said America should have gone ahead with what he called a "no-brainer" decision.

Mr Carroll hit back, telling Newsnight, "I would agree with that statement. To privatize would be a no-brainer. It would only be thought about by someone with no brain."

New plans, obtained from the State Department by Newsnight and Harper's Magazine under the US Freedom of Information Act, called for creation of a state-owned oil company favoured by the US oil industry. It was completed in January 2004 under the guidance of Amy Jaffe of the James Baker Institute in Texas.

Formerly US Secretary of State, Baker is now an attorney representing Exxon-Mobil and the Saudi Arabian government.

View segments of Iraq oil plans at www.GregPalast.com

Questioned by Newsnight, Ms Jaffe said the oil industry prefers state control of Iraq's oil over a sell-off because it fears a repeat of Russia's energy privatisation. In the wake of the collapse of the Soviet Union, US oil companies were barred from bidding for the reserves.

Ms Jaffe says US oil companies are not warm to any plan that would undermine Opec and the current high oil price: "I'm not sure that if I'm the chair of an American company, and you put me on a lie detector test, I would say high oil prices are bad for me or my company."

The former Shell oil boss agrees. In Houston, he told Newsnight: "Many neo conservatives are people who have certain ideological beliefs about markets, about democracy, about this, that and the other. International oil companies, without exception, are very pragmatic commercial organizations. They don't have a theology."

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Re: Newsnight Report: Secret US plans for Iraq's oil [Re: psilomonkey]
    #3937110 - 03/18/05 08:27 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

OMG!!! It's not that much of a secret if we know about now is it?

Nice article, any mention of it in American News?

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Re: Newsnight Report: Secret US plans for Iraq's oil [Re: Psychoactive1984]
    #3939268 - 03/19/05 11:16 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I am going to watch the programme tonight. I am a bit dubius since this has not been reported on the BBC news, so I am going to watch it with a pinch of salt. Then again it is blindingly obvious that Iraq's vast oil reserves played a factor in the invasion, though I never thought that the US would actually plan to privatise/buy Iraqi oil companies.

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Re: Newsnight Report: Secret US plans for Iraq's oil [Re: psilomonkey]
    #3942971 - 03/20/05 08:59 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I'm not too concerned with letting private companies extract oil in Iraq as long as the oil still belongs to the people of Iraq, along with a good portion of the wealth it generates.

And if they decide they don't want to sell their oil anymore, or for whatever price, or under whatever condirtions, that is their right.


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Re: Newsnight Report: Secret US plans for Iraq's oil [Re: psilomonkey]
    #3955433 - 03/22/05 08:49 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

*Irrelevant rubbish Deleted By Rono*

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Re: Newsnight Report: Secret US plans for Iraq's oil [Re: Great_Satan]
    #3956916 - 03/23/05 12:15 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Yay! A diversionary apologist cut and paste that doesn't deal with the thread topic.

O'Neill: Bush planned Iraq invasion before 9/11

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Re: Newsnight Report: Secret US plans for Iraq's oil [Re: FrankieJustTrypt]
    #3959076 - 03/23/05 01:50 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

i think bush is conartist and only is for big bussniess (he would make a great car sales man)--his family has inverstments in the oil companies...it is all about money...

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Re: Newsnight Report: Secret US plans for Iraq's oil [Re: starptv23]
    #3960025 - 03/23/05 04:26 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)


starptv23 said:
i think bush is conartist and only is for big bussniess (he would make a great car sales man)--his family has inverstments in the oil companies...it is all about money...

U r kwite 'mart.


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