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InvisibleMikeO
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Plastic Oven/Turkey bags
    #374802 - 08/19/01 11:22 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

I've seen a couple of TEKs that mention oven bags... plastic bags that sustain 350 degrees (no more than 400 per the box I read at the store today). My friend is curious how he would use that in his 22QT pressure cooker without the bag touching the wall (and melting it).

Has anyone here used these bags? My friend says he can use them much easier than quart jars.

MikeO



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Re: Plastic Oven/Turkey bags [Re: MikeO]
    #374881 - 08/20/01 01:15 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

i guess you could but the bag in thick pillow case or cloth and tie it off. Or why not put it in the oven at 350.?



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Re: Plastic Oven/Turkey bags [Re: MikeO]
    #374924 - 08/20/01 02:16 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

I've read a few techs on this, and tried a few. The only way it will work is if you seal the bag completely (bad for colonisation) or if you rig up a little air filter at the top (pretty easy to do, harder to explain). I don't think there is much of a problem with the bag touching and melting, spawn bags have no trouble and they are pretty close to the same material, if not the same material.

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Re: Plastic Oven/Turkey bags [Re: jonnyshaggs420]
    #375012 - 08/20/01 06:12 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

got a few dieas going in my head for this idea, gonna be trying them all out soon, within next week or so. Maybe if i not being so lazy and lame will tell all what i foudn out. Even if it is " i am crap at growing mushriooms ' :)

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Re: Plastic Oven/Turkey bags [Re: aenima]
    #375021 - 08/20/01 06:54 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

put your chosen amount of substreight in plastic bag. put the pag inside another container- like the vegetable basket you get with the cooker. Alternatively, use a streight sided autoclavablel container- I have used old cans that used to contain tinned tomatoes (cleaned, no sharp edges- all the usual precautions). Put a ball of either some rockwool or polyester fiber in the top of the bag. Tie this filter twice (once at top of filter, once at bottom), and tie it tightly. rap foil over the top of the bag/filter. Preasure cook as required. Innoculate through the filter, then make sure the ties are secure and tied tightly before putting away. If you keep them in the cans, they are a similar shape to 1/2 pint jars, but hold 3/4 pint to the top. The bags can be taken out of the cans for examination without touching them.
This process is working fine for me. I dont use jars.

Edited by onetone on 08/20/01 05:56 AM.



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Re: Plastic Oven/Turkey bags *DELETED* [Re: MikeO]
    #375274 - 08/20/01 08:22 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Plastic Oven/Turkey bags [Re: psilocybe cubensis]
    #375326 - 08/20/01 09:45 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

I can dig it. I'm hip to the temperature, but my 22 QT Presto pressure cooker/canner did not come with a veggie rack and I'll be damned if I can find anything in the stores (walmat, kmart, quickiemart) that will work! Whatever I get, it has to be stainless steele or it will rust on the first go around... this requirement will no doubt hamper my efforts even more.

Anyone else gotta solution?





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Re: Plastic Oven/Turkey bags [Re: MikeO]
    #375499 - 08/21/01 07:11 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

dont give out those bad vibes. You can use ANY container which will allow you to take the bag outof the container and will not itself melt.
Having given it a liltte thought (and I mean around 30 seconds), I can think off: cleaned-out tin cans, old mugs (without the handles), glasses, microwavelable tuperware containers (they can withstand high Temperatures), cereal bowls. You can use ANYTHING. Its not going to come into contact with your medium, so it doesnt matter if its going to rust or not. Its just acting to protect the bag from dirrect heat, and to hold the shape of your cake. You dont even need to keep the shape of your cake if your going to crumble it. Go to the shops and buy the cheapest thing that looks like it will do the job. Thats why I used tin cans. Dont tell me you cant get tin cans......



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Re: Plastic Oven/Turkey bags [Re: onetone]
    #375505 - 08/21/01 07:51 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

throw the bag in the microwave, problems saolved :)

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Re: Plastic Oven/Turkey bags [Re: MikeO]
    #375812 - 08/21/01 08:37 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

i put a hand towell in the cooker, then the bag. prevented it from touching the sides. that was for jiffy mix. dosn't seem to hurt the towell, less you forget about the pc when it's on high, and you fall astleep.

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Re: Plastic Oven/Turkey bags [Re: Shaw]
    #375828 - 08/21/01 09:39 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Damn... I have a few large coffee cans to use. I was concerned about them rusting and generally funking up my PC, but It's not like I cook food in there :)

As for using a microwave... Don't own one. Destroys vitamins and other nutrients in food, creates too many free radicals which are very bad for the body. Imagine... living in year 2001 without a microwave... how do I do it? JIFFY POP!

I'm gonna try the towel tomorrow!

excuse me while I go soak some more finch seed!

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Re: Plastic Oven/Turkey bags [Re: MikeO]
    #375830 - 08/21/01 09:44 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Or I would be more that happy to sell you filter patch bags 2 for 1.00 + postage

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Re: Plastic Oven/Turkey bags [Re: dimitri211]
    #375835 - 08/21/01 09:48 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Thanks, but no thanks... No interstate paper trail for me!

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