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OfflineCatalysis
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The Blackberry battle: Canada Officially Endorses Stealing US Patents
    #3679015 - 01/25/05 07:43 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050125/ap_on_hi_te/canada_blackberry_dispute_1

Some people thought it was too good to be true. "No way?! A successful Canadian technology?". Turns out it was. As you may have heard, a battle has been raging in the US courts over 16 patents stolen from an American company and used in Blackberry technology. Now the Canadian government has officially endorsed this and even had the balls to tell the US we have no right to enforce these patents, even in our own country.

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Canada claims a recent U.S. federal court ruling against Research In Motion Ltd., the Ontario-based makers of the BlackBerry, threatens to have a "troubling effect of chilling innovation by Canadian companies."




Maybe if they did the right thing and at least payed royalties on US sales, they could continue thier "innovation".

This is just another story in a pattern of Canadians ripping off US intellectual property and selling it back to us at discount rates.


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Re: The Blackberry battle: Canada Officially Endorses Stealing US Patents [Re: Catalysis]
    #3679250 - 01/25/05 08:30 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Chalk one up for Canada.

I don't care for intellectual property. It is not tangible, and cannot be stolen. In this case the canadian company did not take the technology away from the US company, it apparently was just able to profit off it better. Thats the free market for you.

This is just another story in a pattern of Canadians ripping off US intellectual property and selling it back to us at discount rates.

Can you give me some examples?


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Re: The Blackberry battle: Canada Officially Endorses Stealing US Patents [Re: FrankieJustTrypt]
    #3679394 - 01/25/05 09:07 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

The pharmaceutical industry.

So what is to prevent giant corporations from taking every persons inventions and running them out of the market?


Edited by Catalysis (01/25/05 09:16 PM)


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Re: The Blackberry battle: Canada Officially Endorses Stealing US Patents [Re: Catalysis]
    #3679616 - 01/25/05 10:01 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I do have to agree with Catylist how it is bullshit that Canada reaps the benefits and gets the credit for American research. This Im sure will fall through in the court of law though since techniques and styles cannot be patented or copyrighted. It looks like this particular company's indsutry secret leaked and even though they put there hard earned money and time into it, the techniqe is availabe for anybody to exploit. It's just like Courna Sanders Original Chicken recipe with his special Blend of herbs and Spices. Sure you can Copyright KFC, the colors, the name, the logos etc.... but if that recipe gets into the wrong hands, anybody and everybody would be allowed to take a piece.


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Re: The Blackberry battle: Canada Officially Endorses Stealing US Patents [Re: PsillyNilly]
    #3679697 - 01/25/05 10:15 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah you are right but the real problem with this is that its not a secret. Canadians can just go through the US patent database and essentialy take whatever they want and market it as their own.


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Re: The Blackberry battle: Canada Officially Endorses Stealing US Patents [Re: Catalysis]
    #3679912 - 01/25/05 10:55 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so.

- Thomas Jefferson

I say IP patents are unjust and therefore should be disobeyed or disregarded by all.


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Re: The Blackberry battle: Canada Officially Endorses Stealing US Patents [Re: cb9fl]
    #3680630 - 01/26/05 12:45 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Fuck that. If I spend money and time to do research, why should someone with liquid capital be able to corner the market using my work without compensation? Ideas require investment and, therefore, they are worth money just like any other product that requires investment. I don't see your point. This is just plain stealing. It is beyond stealing because they are recovering profit from stolen goods (the idea that was invested in) that isn't even realized yet.

Why shouldn't i be able to walk into walmart and take what i please? Sure they invested money in those products but those products inevitably came from resources available to all of us right? Just because I am capable of knitting a shirt doesn't mean I can walk into a store and take whatever shirt I want. Im not just paying for the materials to make a shirt, im paying for the intangible aspects such as the time devoted by workers to make the shirt.


Edited by Catalysis (01/26/05 01:02 AM)


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Re: The Blackberry battle: Canada Officially Endorses Stealing US Patents [Re: PsillyNilly]
    #3681428 - 01/26/05 03:06 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

PsillyNilly said:
I It's just like Courna Sanders Original Chicken recipe with his special Blend of herbs and Spices. Sure you can Copyright KFC, the colors, the name, the logos etc.... but if that recipe gets into the wrong hands, anybody and everybody would be allowed to take a piece.




KFC recipe:
2 cups of flour,
1/2 tsp salt,
1/2 tsp thyme,
1/2 tsp basil,
1/2 tsp oregano,
1 tbsp celery salt,
1 tbsp black pepper,
1 tbsp dry mustard,
4 tbsp paprika,
2 tsp garlic salt,
1 tsp ground ginger,
3 tbsp MSG (accent)
Mix all ingrediants in a large bowl.
Dip chicken pieces in beaten eggs,
Then turn them over in regular bread crumbs, (commercial)
Finally plunge them into the above mix.
heat pressure cooker up to 350 and submerge chicken. put on the lid and start 15 minute count.


now, take over the world.


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Re: The Blackberry battle: Canada Officially Endorses Stealing US Patents [Re: automan]
    #3682450 - 01/26/05 11:50 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I know that recipe... It was invented by a Canadian  :lol: :lol: :lol:


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Re: The Blackberry battle: Canada Officially Endorses Stealing US Patents [Re: Catalysis]
    #3682740 - 01/26/05 01:11 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Give me a break. This thread isn't worth my reply.

(this is a pseudo-reply)


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Re: The Blackberry battle: Canada Officially Endorses Stealing US Patents [Re: automan]
    #3685937 - 01/26/05 11:46 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I never said anybody would be able to take over the world with the recipe....besides KFC has such a threshold with there partiular unique flavoer that it would be too late for anybody to capatalize on those ingredients....even if your search on the google did come up with the exact recipe. I was trying to make an analogy to compare to the Blackberry situation. But thanks for the recipe. Ill test it out and see if it compares.


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Re: The Blackberry battle: Canada Officially Endorses Stealing US Patents [Re: Catalysis]
    #3686241 - 01/27/05 12:32 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

well its about time our pussy ass gov didnt take one up the ass from bush...although i agree with you its a pretty stupid one to back.  but when you look at our government, nto at all suprising.

states takes our natural resources, we will take tehir technology :smile: id prefer to reverse that, but oh well :shrug:

teh clowns in office here arnt really much better than there...


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Re: The Blackberry battle: Canada Officially Endorses Stealing US Patents [Re: Catalysis]
    #3687008 - 01/27/05 02:50 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Canada 1
USA 0


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Re: The Blackberry battle: Canada Officially Endorses Stealing US Patents [Re: Phluck]
    #3687049 - 01/27/05 03:04 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

More like ...

Canada 1
USA  -1

Heheheh.  :lol:


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Re: The Blackberry battle: Canada Officially Endorses Stealing US Patents [Re: Phluck]
    #3688364 - 01/27/05 02:11 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Phluck said:
Canada 1
USA 0




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Re: The Blackberry battle: Canada Officially Endorses Stealing US Patents [Re: DF2K]
    #3688729 - 01/27/05 03:50 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

if canada wasnt so cold id move there,so i think ill go to florida


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Re: The Blackberry battle: Canada Officially Endorses Stealing US Patents [Re: Cosm]
    #3688981 - 01/27/05 04:43 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Florida sucks move to Canada. Once I finish school I may try to find a way up there.


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Re: The Blackberry battle: Canada Officially Endorses Stealing US Patents [Re: Phluck]
    #3689803 - 01/27/05 07:40 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

That's exactly how we "won" the space race.

We declared it officially over the second we got ahead.


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Re: The Blackberry battle: Canada Officially Endorses Stealing US Patents [Re: funkymonk]
    #3689938 - 01/27/05 07:59 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

funkymonk said:
Give me a break. This thread isn't worth my reply.

(this is a pseudo-reply)




agreed


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Re: The Blackberry battle: Canada Officially Endorses Stealing US Patents [Re: blink]
    #3690342 - 01/27/05 09:44 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Sorry, I figured the people in the "science and technology forum" would understand a thing or two about intellectual property.  Ill come back when i want to learn how to crash windoze??!!!!11 or when i need help pressing play on my VCR.  :tongue:

help i n33d t0rr3ntzzz1!!1!1 how do i prot forword????? lol

just kidding


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